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Murderer head turn in system is not acurate

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:50 pm
by son
During t2a, fame was not a requirement to obtain bounty on a murderer.

Additionally, this kill shot business is not acurate. Both of these requirements were not part of t2a era to obtain a murderer's bounty.

I just killed a PK, got his head, but somehow was unable to obtain it because the kill shot was probably awarded to one kind of monster in the dungeon.

Re: Murderer head turn in system is not acurate

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:55 pm
by Hemperor
12/9/97 wrote:Only the bounty hunter can turn in the head.
There are no other mentioned bounty system changes throughout the rest of the patch notes leading up to UO:R...there are some other neat things in this note I'd like to check out, if anyone could chime in here and verify that the 97 posted system was accurate throughout the T2A era.

Re: Murderer head turn in system is not acurate

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:01 pm
by son
"Bounty hunter" not necessarily means obtaining kill shot. Awaiting more people's responses on this.

Re: Murderer head turn in system is not acurate

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:02 pm
by Hemperor
son wrote:"Bounty hunter" not necessarily means obtaining kill shot. Awaiting more people's responses on this.
What does it mean then? Lol

Re: Murderer head turn in system is not acurate

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:25 am
by Michael Malloy
Hemperor wrote:What does it mean then? Lol
If you 99% of the damage to a red and a mongbat hits him for 1 damage and he dies, the mongbat is the bounty hunter? I think not.

Re: Murderer head turn in system is not acurate

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:53 am
by RoadKill
I know for a fact it wasn't based on the kill shot.

I remember a time when we'd try to cut our friend's head in battle before anyone else could, to turn it in to collect the bounty rather than letting a stranger get the cash.

As for the karma requirement, I'm not sure about it, but off hand I'd say it's inaccurate because most my time on OSI I spent with negative karma (or negative Notoriety prior to Fame/Karma), and I do remember turning heads in

Re: Murderer head turn in system is not acurate

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:30 am
by Derrick
NPC/Creatures are not supposed to be assigned as the killer when it comes to bounties. This will be fixed.

Only respectable folk were allowed to turn in heads for bounties at some time. What respectable means may be open to interpretation too. There isn't a lot of hard documentation on the system from era. :(

Re: Murderer head turn in system is not acurate

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:44 am
by slida
I think this is a problem with how fame is rewarded as well when it comes to multiple attackers, for instance me and a buddy were fighting a titan and when it died, I received no fame at all. Another example: I got a silver serpent down to around 25% when another spawned and I provoked them and got no fame when the first one died, and this is my crafter, who has no title.

Re: Murderer head turn in system is not acurate

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:57 am
by Faust
Slida,

That is because fame wasn't distributed between the people damaging a creature during t2a. The way that it worked during this era is the person who actually introduced the "killing last blow" to the mobile. Fame distribution wasn't implemented until the UOR era.