UO Second Age

You need to add stat loss , it makes no sense for me to play if all those lil tit sucking pusssies are blue! I mean , where is fun to even fight someone who is always blue and the same with blue healers. Since there are no "rules" on this shard, you can kill and macro back without any cause, that was never UO , whatever Era you think you played.
So, as to make it clear, if the rules are not changed, I will remove all my chars, and I will not recommend this server anymore. I have met alot of Very cool people here, and I was having fun too but when there is no penalty for killing someone, and when you die you just macro it off back to blue, whats the point? So, what I am saying is , why should I continue to play here? Go back to One murder, you should be red, you cant get into town as you are KOS and then your 7X GM Cocksucker would have a reason not to die. Stat loss, its what all the Macroing Fags cried about in the Real Game, it's just too easy to disrupt someones playing experience here and not suffer some kind setback. You know I hate to be so straight forward but the fun factor has faded with all the lame stuff that people pull, hey kill me all you want, not a problem! But there needs something to deter that cookiecutter Blue PK . I guess I could join in but why ?

Agreed. There was stat loss, and 5 murders made you red. Once you were red, it was impossible to ever be blue again.
They want to stay blue and pk, just afraid to face the consequences I guess. Carebear pk's. No wonder most of the original players left to find somewhere they could pvm.

let me know if your search comes up with anything interesting...

Lol no one gives a shit if you quit you crying little fag, Why don't you go red and get killed every time you walk into town.

Yep, a typical response from Alex, who is exactly the type of player ebolter is complaing about. A blue PKer. Actually Alex, I don't know why you bother to post at all, everyone knows you'll just throw the fag call at people when you do. Next time you're gonna post, just leave a full stop or something, it'll be about as meaningful.

I think ebolter has a good point. The number of murderers I see macroing off their murder count in houses is crazy. Whether or not you think ebolter is a wuss, he's right in that there aren't really any significant consequences for PKing on this server. On the OSI servers you used to get in trouble macroing, so it was somewhat more difficult to work off your murders.

LargePiece wrote:he's right in that there aren't really any significant consequences for PKing on this server.

Try Divinity then if you really think that - you'll be running back here with your tail between your legs.

Ebolter: Not to be rude, but it sounds like you're either a Trammie or you just suck at playing a T2A era shard.

We have statloss.

The point is , I don't want to play another shard . The reason I quit UO because there was no point of good and bad, evil whatever. Alex , kiss your mom on Moms day and that is what my cock tastes like , you fucking little puke. Storm , get a grip , Trammel was the reason I quit, you played back in 97 right?

Storm wrote:
Try Divinity then if you really think that - you'll be running back here with your tail between your legs.

Thanks for the suggestion but surprising as it may seem, I don't have a tail.

The systems on this shard are designed to be era accurate, not to encourage or discourage a particular playstyle.

As was noted above we do have statloss. The trouble appears to in the ability to macro off counts, but that was a problem on OSI as well, as players were not often approached by staff for simply having their characters online. The unattended macroing that even OSI was concerned with was macroing productive tasks while not online. I certainly was never harassed for idling in my house unattended.

Ebolter wrote:So, as to make it clear, if the rules are not changed, I will remove all my chars, and I will not recommend this server anymore.

Although I would be sorry to see you go we will not change rules for the purposes of retaining players. This shard is designed to be accurate to the era, and is intended to attract players who desire that. Many other shards have perverted T2A for the purpose of player retention to the extent that it is no longer recognizable.

We will however consider well thought out suggestions within the realm of the era. This precludes us however from adopting any policies such as was suggested above:

Blakheart wrote:Once you were red, it was impossible to ever be blue again.

Both side of this issue certainly have valid concerns, can we please try and keep this thread productive and not just degenerate into name-calling. Let's please also try and keep this contained within a thread. (meaning there were three top thread on this same subject when I got up this morn)

granted im new to this shard and dont know how things are here yet, buy personally I came from a shard back in the day that had no stat loss and no trammel, so basically you were only semi safe in town and I love it that way, I joined this shard for its pvp potential and lack of the "carebear" aspect so many shards have today. There are many ways to effectively not die from a pk, your best bet is running and dont try and tell me you cant run because I survived at least 5 attacks today on a character no more then 5 hours old.

The whole concept of Blue pk's well personally I think thats just cowardly and if your not willing to go red, dont pk. but hey you dont always get to play with ppl who play with the same ethics as yourself, thats life, not just in game.

Basically what I'm saying is dieing is part of the game learn to live with it, and even use it to enhance your skills as a player.

Plus look at the brightside, if there a blue PK it severly limits how many ppl thay can kill, cause without the stat loss for reds I can garuntee it'd be far far worse (or better depending on how you look at it)

First of all, stop making so many threads about the same shit.

With that said, I agree with you about blue pk's being a huge problem. If a player chooses the path of killing the innocent, they should not be able to afk macro their guilt away. On this particular matter, I frankly don't care what was "era accurate".

Well, being one of the only true red pks here who doesn't macro murders I have to say the original poster is a moron. First, we have stat loss. It's era accurate. Second blue killing is so rare here and frankly highly welcomed. It's about time we have people trying their hands at pking for the first time (euph). And thirdly theres maybe 5 pks on the whole shard, is pking really getting out of hand? Get over it.

He's just mad because he was about to get killed outside of Shame

Its era accurate to the OP. I do remember there being a perma-red status though in t2a but it could just be someone who had too many counts to macro off, not sure.

bOmb wrote:Its era accurate to the OP. I do remember there being a perma-red status though in t2a but it could just be someone who had too many counts to macro off, not sure.

Aye. they added a ping-pong rule towards the end of T2A just before the release of UO:R such that if you went back and forth between blue and red too often you would become permanantly red. It was rescinded not long after the release of UO:R