UO Second Age

Aggressive animals/monsters which are tamed then released are supposed to be aggressive and attack other players. Currently, they are passive. If you release a dragon/hell hound, they do not attack anyone.

I believe that you are supposed to be able to trap spawned/static chests; you are not allowed to do so here. I used to go to ratman valley and trap the spawning chests then hide beside them until i was covered in the blood of some noob adventurer .

valheru wrote:Aggressive animals/monsters which are tamed then released are supposed to be aggressive and attack other players. Currently, they are passive. If you release a dragon/hell hound, they do not attack anyone.

I believe that you are supposed to be able to trap spawned/static chests; you are not allowed to do so here. I used to go to ratman valley and trap the spawning chests then hide beside them until i was covered in the blood of some noob adventurer .

Your right about the trapping of spawned chests. Stealth-tinkerer was a popular template when i played during T2A. Im not sure about the animal thing, I brought it up once but someone said it was accurate. No idea. I remember them attacking though.

The animal thing has been mentioned in the past and I believe it's on the to do list

I'll look into this. I'm pretty sure it's accurate for animals to remain aggressive to monsters, but this may be incorrect for aggressive animals such as drakes, dragons, etc.

Thanks.

ahhh.. stealth tinkers.

umm released animals are aggressive to monsters here.

valheru wrote:I believe that you are supposed to be able to trap spawned/static chests; you are not allowed to do so here.

I wish I could see some more info on this. It makes sence to me on the face that you would me able to do this, however I used to contantly look in chests around town and in dungeons, and never recall one blowing up in my face. It seems like if this was true every box in the city of Britain would be trapped.

However, If it can be shown to be accurate we'll correct this.

Currently containers must me both locakable and movable to to trappable.

Here's something about changes to the abilty to trap mobs:

Source: http://www.uoherald.com/news/archives.php?offset=77

Item ‘Smashing’ and Monster Movement
UO Team
27 Nov 2000 00:00:00 EST
Monsters may no longer be ‘trapped’ by barricading them behind various objects in the game world. They will now attempt to maneuver around the objects and in some cases may smash the objects barring their movement.

Items that are locked down, secure, or strongboxes may not be smashed. Containers, if smashed, will spill their contents onto the ground.

I am 100% positive that you can trap spawning chests, I used to trap the ones in rat valley all the time.

It will probably be very hard if not impossible to find notes on this, for it never changed and therefore would not be mentioned in patch notes.

You would not find chests in town trapped, because since the trap is being placed out of your house, you take a murder count. It's too hard/risky to sneak a red tinkerer into a guard zone

Kraarug wrote:Here's something about changes to the abilty to trap mobs:

Source: http://www.uoherald.com/news/archives.php?offset=77

Item ‘Smashing’ and Monster Movement
UO Team
27 Nov 2000 00:00:00 EST
Monsters may no longer be ‘trapped’ by barricading them behind various objects in the game world. They will now attempt to maneuver around the objects and in some cases may smash the objects barring their movement.

Items that are locked down, secure, or strongboxes may not be smashed. Containers, if smashed, will spill their contents onto the ground.

Note the date of the patch where they moved around or broke things. This was UOR not T2A.

We use to trap ballys in Hyloth with crates all the time.

Kraarug wrote:

Kraarug wrote:Here's something about changes to the abilty to trap mobs:

Source: http://www.uoherald.com/news/archives.php?offset=77

Item ‘Smashing’ and Monster Movement
UO Team
27 Nov 2000 00:00:00 EST
Monsters may no longer be ‘trapped’ by barricading them behind various objects in the game world. They will now attempt to maneuver around the objects and in some cases may smash the objects barring their movement.

Items that are locked down, secure, or strongboxes may not be smashed. Containers, if smashed, will spill their contents onto the ground.

Note the date of the patch where they moved around or broke things. This was UOR not T2A.

We use to trap ballys in Hyloth with crates all the time.

Kraug, I think you are misunderstanding my original post.

When i say trap spawned chests, I mean that a tinkerer will place an exploding trap on a spawned chest and wait for someone to open it. This issue has nothing to do with trapping monsters behind boxes.

A few pieces of information:

December 21, 1998 patch notes

• Monsters will pick up and destroy items that block them as follows:
• The item must be moveable.
• The creature cannot be a pet.
• The item cannot be locked down.
• The item must be impassable.
• Monsters can destroy an item anytime.
• Human NPCs must be attacking someone to destroy an item.
• Animals must be attacking someone to destroy an item.
• The creatures will destroy stacked items one at a time.

December 8, 1998 patch notes

• Traps and the magic lock spell can no longer be placed on locked down containers. You can still place them on containers before they are locked down, however. This was done to prevent people from trapping containers to ambush the container's owners.

For the second patch note, given the way that locked down containers would work (simply disallowing movement), it is distinctly possible that other chests outside of houses would operate in the same manner.

I know that tamed creatures will destroy a stack of items like it was a single item.

Regarding trapped chests

Posted March, 1999

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... bb737c765a

Kevin M <[email protected]> wrote:
Q: Can camp-spawned chests be trapped by players?

From: Shawn <[email protected]>
>Q: Can camp-spawned chests be trapped by players?

Yes.

To reiterate, you are supposed to be able to trap spawned chests, but you cannot currently do so on UOSA.

Kefka wrote:To reiterate, you are supposed to be able to trap spawned chests, but you cannot currently do so on UOSA.

This will be in the next patch.