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Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:46 am
by valheru
There are many guard zone inaccuracies, the easy ones to fix right now are the guard towers out in the wild.

This is a huge issue IMHO, and it has been known about for a long time. Is it really that difficult to fix/change?

Just wondering.

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:55 am
by Silverfoot
I agree, all guard towers including the crossroads out in the bloody plains were guard zones. Last time I made a thread about this no one remembered that though. :(

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:04 pm
by Derrick
It's something that's been on the list for a while. The guard zones in the woods wouldn't be hard to fix, but there was some dispute on whether that was actually accurate.

There are a few other regions that are known to be incorrect, such as cove docks, and there are a few other regions that aren't quite right as well. It is kind of a job to get in and redraw all these borders, but will try to get it on the fast-track.

The area in wind in the east side of the return teleporter room which was guarded has been blocked off.

Currently all of our guard lines correspond to the guard lines shown in the Razor Positioning System.

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:29 pm
by Mephistopheles
I don't remember the guard towers in the woods ever being protected. Please make sure you have some semblance of evidence before you go ahead and make that change. If anyone here still plays on OSI then I'm sure they could check.

If there were guard zones in those towers, players wouldn't be able to kill the Order Guards for skill gain like they have been for so many years. I distinctly remember being able to summon a Blade Spirit to poison one of these guards for loot on OSI and never once heard the "Teleport Hallywhack" noise.

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:38 pm
by Silverfoot
Well, I never remember there even being order guards in these buildings. I remember being able to run to them to insta-kill monsters and hide from reds.

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:17 pm
by RoadKill
Order guards were not in wilderness guard posts. That I can probably confirm if I dip into my SSs but I think that's a feeling most people have about it.

As for guard zones, pre-Fame/Karma they were "guarded" in the sense that if a guard saw you, he'd whack you (through the wall too!) but I can't remember when they fixed this. I just remember when I'd run to my house as a recently ressed Dread Lord, I had to avoid the shortcut or I'd have a chance of getting whacked.

T2A entrances were guarded, I think there were just 2 you could use as a red

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:48 pm
by Hiram
The guard zone in wind is accurate, I request that the stones be removed!
Screen shot from OSI Atlantic attached.

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:21 pm
by Biohazard
Hiram wrote:The guard zone in wind is accurate, I request that the stones be removed!
Screen shot from OSI Atlantic attached.
Yes I heard many tears were shed from the shard sissy Kefka in order to get these stones placed here since he didn't know where the guardzone was... even though its been there since the dawn of UO time. Then he claimed we were the noobs... lol.

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:33 pm
by Hemperor
Remove the stone

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:05 pm
by Derrick
Thanks for confirming this. They will be removed.

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:58 pm
by poogoblin
RoadKill wrote:Order guards were not in wilderness guard posts. That I can probably confirm if I dip into my SSs but I think that's a feeling most people have about it.

As for guard zones, pre-Fame/Karma they were "guarded" in the sense that if a guard saw you, he'd whack you (through the wall too!) but I can't remember when they fixed this. I just remember when I'd run to my house as a recently ressed Dread Lord, I had to avoid the shortcut or I'd have a chance of getting whacked.

T2A entrances were guarded, I think there were just 2 you could use as a red

Your gear makes me want to puke

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:16 am
by Biohazard
poogoblin wrote:
RoadKill wrote:Order guards were not in wilderness guard posts. That I can probably confirm if I dip into my SSs but I think that's a feeling most people have about it.

As for guard zones, pre-Fame/Karma they were "guarded" in the sense that if a guard saw you, he'd whack you (through the wall too!) but I can't remember when they fixed this. I just remember when I'd run to my house as a recently ressed Dread Lord, I had to avoid the shortcut or I'd have a chance of getting whacked.

T2A entrances were guarded, I think there were just 2 you could use as a red

Your gear makes me want to puke

haha I told him something similar

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:32 am
by valheru
Biohazard wrote:
Hiram wrote:The guard zone in wind is accurate, I request that the stones be removed!
Screen shot from OSI Atlantic attached.
Yes I heard many tears were shed from the shard sissy Kefka in order to get these stones placed here since he didn't know where the guardzone was... even though its been there since the dawn of UO time. Then he claimed we were the noobs... lol.
tears shed? if you read my irc chat with your buddy, i was laughing about it. laughing. i just mentioned to derrick that i was pretty sure that the guard zone there shouldn't be there, that was all.

On another note, i played all of T2A, and guard towers out in the wild were ALWAYS guarded. I died many times by chasing someone down a dirt road and past a guard tower, only to get guard whacked.

Bio, keep the trash talk out of this forum. But just to shoot back, you are one of the worst pvpers on the shard, had you running redlined like a baby yesterday, and i'll fight you 1vs1 anytime you wish in the field when you see it. come hang outside our keep more often :)

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:58 am
by Fwerp
Guard towers were not guarded, and the guard zones at t2a entrances (at least in northern Minoc) were intermittent.

Re: Guard zone inaccuracies

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:39 am
by Derrick
I'mna lock this before it degenerates any further.
If there is any new information on guard towers, please make a new thread. We have nothing conclusive to go on at this time.