UO Second Age

Faust wrote:Welcome to the second age era where it doesn't reflect uor era game mechanics unlike the rest, son.

Faust wrote:Welcome to the second age era where it doesn't reflect uor era game mechanics unlike the rest.

UOHOC - 11.18.99 wrote:Niobe - *Eddie* Is there any plan on fixing the cure potions so that the higher cures are needed to cure the higher poisons? Right now lesser cures have a large percentage to cure even deadly, and magic cure can cure all of them way too easily, making poisoning pretty weak.
Firedog - Yes.
Firedog - Yes there is.
Firedog - Soon, hopefully.
Firedog - Should be a part of early phases of the new alchemy stuff.

Renaissance Publish Apr 28 2000 10:28AM CST wrote: Cure Potions
Cure potions will now cure poison based on the relative strength of the cure potion and the poison afflicting the character. A lesser cure will have virtually no chance of curing a deadly poisoned character, while a greater cure will cure greater poison much more often than not. All other cure and poison levels will scale accordingly.

hiicha wrote:Poison Thread

Continuation after patch

Faust wrote:Potions are without a doubt a hundred percent accurate and cannot remotely be disputed even slightly...

UOHOC - 11.18.99 wrote:Niobe - *Eddie* Is there any plan on fixing the cure potions so that the higher cures are needed to cure the higher poisons? Right now lesser cures have a large percentage to cure even deadly, and magic cure can cure all of them way too easily, making poisoning pretty weak.
Firedog - Yes.
Firedog - Yes there is.
Firedog - Soon, hopefully.
Firedog - Should be a part of early phases of the new alchemy stuff.

Renaissance Publish Apr 28 2000 10:28AM CST wrote: Cure Potions
Cure potions will now cure poison based on the relative strength of the cure potion and the poison afflicting the character. A lesser cure will have virtually no chance of curing a deadly poisoned character, while a greater cure will cure greater poison much more often than not. All other cure and poison levels will scale accordingly.

I would suggest following hiicha's lead.. and follow the discussion that lead to the changes before continuing this never ending path of wasting bandwidth on a topic that has been discussed and proven time after time already.....

hiicha wrote:Poison Thread

Continuation after patch

The people that continue this ongoing crusade on poison/curing is either drowning in current UO alterations or misled/incorrect RunUO distro packages from previous shards...

The poison damage study essay from 2.00 that Ronk got is pretty solid. I think there needs to be some addressing of interruption to get the sence of deadly poison that we seem to be missing.

Poison damage for all poisons is not "recalculated" for each "interval" of damage (only about a 50% chance).

on callback<0x53>() // 0x53 is called every X seconds to apply the damage
{
  // abort if user died
  if(!Q5JE(this))
  {
    Q660(this);
    return(0x00);
  }

  // handle poison duration
  Q5JF --;
  if(Q5JF < 0x01)
  {
    systemMessage(this, "The poison seems to have worn off.");
    Q660(this);
    return(0x00);
  }

  // go damage the victim
  // NOTE: even though a minimum of 2 is applied
  //       there is a divide by two inside the core
  //       giving us an actual minimum damage of 1
  doDamageType(NULL(), this, (Q42Y + 0x02), 0x08);

  // abort if user just died
  if(!Q5JE(this))
  {
    Q660(this);
    return(0x00);
  }
  else
  {
    // 0-2 = 0,1,2 = 3 choices, only execute if return value is 0 -> 1 out of 3
    if(!random(0x00, 0x02))
    {
      // go recalculate
      strength = getObjVar(this, "poison_strength");
      Q5JB(this, strength);
    }

    // go schedule a new callback
    callBack(this, Q4R0, 0x53);
    return(0x00);
  }

  // unused... taking up space
  Q660(this);
  return(0x00);
}

Batlin wrote:

The poison damage study essay from 2.00 that Ronk got is pretty solid. I think there needs to be some addressing of interruption to get the sence of deadly poison that we seem to be missing.

I don't think it's the interruption that's wrong. It could be the chance for recalculation.

If I'm not mistaken this is the site Ronk gave : http://uo.stratics.com/Archive/alchemy/ ... mage.shtml
Now, those damage values are the same as in the demo.
There is one outstanding difference:

Poison damage for all poisons is not "recalculated" for each "interval" of damage (only about a 50% chance).

In the OSI poisoned script there is only a 1 out of 3 chance for the damage to be recalcuated.

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on callback<0x53>() // 0x53 is called every X seconds to apply the damage
{
  // abort if user died
  if(!Q5JE(this))
  {
    Q660(this);
    return(0x00);
  }

  // handle poison duration
  Q5JF --;
  if(Q5JF < 0x01)
  {
    systemMessage(this, "The poison seems to have worn off.");
    Q660(this);
    return(0x00);
  }

  // go damage the victim
  // NOTE: even though a minimum of 2 is applied
  //       there is a divide by two inside the core
  //       giving us an actual minimum damage of 1
  doDamageType(NULL(), this, (Q42Y + 0x02), 0x08);

  // abort if user just died
  if(!Q5JE(this))
  {
    Q660(this);
    return(0x00);
  }
  else
  {
    // 0-2 = 0,1,2 = 3 choices, only execute if return value is 0 -> 1 out of 3
    if(!random(0x00, 0x02))
    {
      // go recalculate
      strength = getObjVar(this, "poison_strength");
      Q5JB(this, strength);
    }

    // go schedule a new callback
    callBack(this, Q4R0, 0x53);
    return(0x00);
  }

  // unused... taking up space
  Q660(this);
  return(0x00);
}

Maybe the stratics pages are wrong about the chance...?

Faust wrote:Potions are without a doubt a hundred percent accurate and cannot remotely be disputed even slightly...

UOHOC - 11.18.99 wrote:Niobe - *Eddie* Is there any plan on fixing the cure potions so that the higher cures are needed to cure the higher poisons? Right now lesser cures have a large percentage to cure even deadly, and magic cure can cure all of them way too easily, making poisoning pretty weak.
Firedog - Yes.
Firedog - Yes there is.
Firedog - Soon, hopefully.
Firedog - Should be a part of early phases of the new alchemy stuff.

Renaissance Publish Apr 28 2000 10:28AM CST wrote: Cure Potions
Cure potions will now cure poison based on the relative strength of the cure potion and the poison afflicting the character. A lesser cure will have virtually no chance of curing a deadly poisoned character, while a greater cure will cure greater poison much more often than not. All other cure and poison levels will scale accordingly.

I would suggest following hiicha's lead.. and follow the discussion that lead to the changes before continuing this never ending path of wasting bandwidth on a topic that has been discussed and proven time after time already.....

hiicha wrote:Poison Thread

Continuation after patch

The people that continue this ongoing crusade on poison/curing is either drowning in current UO alterations or misled/incorrect RunUO distro packages from previous shards...

Watatsumi wrote: Wow you actually use that garbage for your basis to change deadly poison? In the first quote he simply said it was too easy to cure dp with the cure spell, you have NO clue what his idea of too easy is. Maybe only casting cure 2 times is too easy in his estimation. I fail to see how the 2nd quote helps your cause what so ever. Funny how you point these bits of info out and ignore guides written on stratics from the very time peroid we are looking for. Your "research" is very questionable.
I would suggest you take everyone's advice on these forums and just stop posting.

Kraarug wrote:If poison damage is halved like melee damage, then that means the damage before the division is twice what is realized by a player and so, the damage used to calculate interruptionwould be twice what is suggested by Stratics.