Trading Forums

[Bigoud]

Do you guys remember the old uo-auctions.com site ?

I really wish that we could set up something like this for the trading forum section. It would basically be a auction site.

Put an item for sale, then people can bid on it. no talking, no trashtalks then, no useless speech, no comments. Just bidding.

I have to admit that I am not a developer and can't do anything about it. But it would be so much easier for the trading community.

People respecting their bids or not, would have vote for or against, and this would give you fame and reputation...

like 200 positives and done trades would be a sign of trustworthy.

what do you think about it ? Who could take care of this ?

[GuardianKnight]

i remember UOtradespot was a big hit but i was bitter enemies with one of it's official brokers because he would constantly cheat me out of deals by using his mod fame.

It didn't do the things you are asking for though....people constantly talked crap but were moderated 24/7 almost. Probably not possible here.

I like the idea but i could see people farming trust points on little things to wait until something big comes up to scam lol.

[Derrick]

That would be great. We've discussed this before but it fell off the table. I wouldn't likely have time to develop anything like this, but would be happy to host it.

Here's the previous discussion:
http://forum.uosecondage.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3060

[SJane3384]

I could probably work on something like this, though it might take me a little while due to RL time constraints (and the lure of the actual game).

[zzyzx]

That would be great. We've discussed this before but it fell off the table. I wouldn't likely have time to develop anything like this, but would be happy to host it.

Here's the previous discussion:
http://forum.uosecondage.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3060

I could do something cool, but alas, I am guessing your webserver does not support JSF, since well, JSF runs on an appserver?

May be a good opportunity for my to learn php and put it on my resume.

[Hicha]

I was going to create this, but I think there are too many people who would abuse the system and shill bid with ghost or dummy accounts.

[zzyzx]

I was going to create this, but I think there are too many people who would abuse the system and shill bid with ghost or dummy accounts.

What is stopping them from doing that now?

In an ideal world, it would get the user's credentials for the forums from a cookie or something and use those.

[Hicha]

I was going to create this, but I think there are too many people who would abuse the system and shill bid with ghost or dummy accounts.

What is stopping them from doing that now?

In an ideal world, it would get the user's credentials for the forums from a cookie or something and use those.

People already shill bid, usually by means of "private bids." Again, more reason why I didn't develop the auction system.

[Bigoud]

we would be able to trace IP for each account and see if people abuse this.

to be honest, I would be glad to help as much as i can by testing, wording, etc... since i cant dev

anyone wanna start this with me ? need good developer

i might be able to get very nice banners/artworks too

we could call it T2A Auctions

[Derrick]

we would be able to trace IP for each account and see if people abuse this.

to be honest, I would be glad to help as much as i can by testing, wording, etc... since i cant dev

anyone wanna start this with me ? need good developer

i might be able to get very nice banners/artworks too

we could call it T2A Auctions

I would envision this as something not overseen or administrated by UOSA staff. But we would be happy to provide hosting space.

[RoadKill]

I don't have the time to develop this right now, however you don't need much coding experience to set this up. You can find all sorts of plugin/mod packages for forums, one of which is "e-trade rep" as well as advanced options for posting (limited response, poll-style response, etc)

[JoshuaLee]

I don't think there is one thing wrong with the trading post on uosa forums. If this was created I probably would still just use this instead unless all the trading transferred to there. I've been using trading post for some time and it is very reasonable and never get's out of line. People have free speech and should be allowed to throw in a comment or two regarding the persons business reputation.

And if they do throw in a comment you need to just ignore it or simply say take it to trash talk. Trading Forums are for nothing but business and gold. If there is ever trash talk in there it most certainly does not last long, everyone generally respects the trading forums.

Bigoud if you are so concerned about it well maybe you shouldn't piss people off by selling tables for 999 gold and selling helmets that say invulnerability then you ID them and they are fortification. You have a good shop but at times it's a little dishonest.

But I can assure you, it has no affect on your ability to actually sell items and run auctions well. Nobody cares about what your business reputation is unless they are seriously concerned about being scammed, which is why I made that IRC/Forum scam report thread.

The trading post is fine the way it is and has always been fine. Making something new would just make everything complicated and more difficult. There is nothing more perfect then going to uosa forums and being able to just click trading post and it's all right there in perfect order. Bigoud your requests (as for everything as well) are for your own selfish and personal reasons, not to benefit the community.

Did you ever stop and think if there is a reason why people comment on your posts Bigoud? As much as some people here hate me they never really mess with my business threads because I actually have a good business reputation on here. I have never scammed or ripped anyone off, and I am very honest when it comes to business propositions.

Even though your original idea may seem noble and respectful, in the end I don't buy it one bit. You only made this thread for your own personal reasons, I have never heard a complaint about the trading post ever since I have been here until now.

I am totally against this and if I am the only one then so be it.


Also remember that the uo auction site had a lot more people involved than the uosa community. Just because it worked then doesn't mean it would work now. Everything is fine just the way it is, why fix something that is not broken?

[SJane3384]

I disagree Josh. The posts themselves are fine, but sometimes finding what you're looking for can be a bit difficult. I like the idea of everything being set in its own category. Also, this way you won't have the problem of "private bidders". I've only sold a few things, but because of PMs (specifically someone asking to not be named) people have called me dishonest. With an E-Bay style site, every bid is visible...and you can set it so the bidder's name isn't. I also think it would be nice because we could have a built in feature to track what specific things are selling for. That way you can get an idea of what something is worth and not get ripped off (buying or selling).


EDIT:

I also should mention that my husband and I have been working on this on and off (mostly off...lots of RL crap going on right now). We can share what we have if ppl want.

[JoshuaLee]

I disagree Josh. The posts themselves are fine, but sometimes finding what you're looking for can be a bit difficult. I like the idea of everything being set in its own category. Also, this way you won't have the problem of "private bidders". I've only sold a few things, but because of PMs (specifically someone asking to not be named) people have called me dishonest. With an E-Bay style site, every bid is visible...and you can set it so the bidder's name isn't. I also think it would be nice because we could have a built in feature to track what specific things are selling for. That way you can get an idea of what something is worth and not get ripped off (buying or selling).


EDIT:

I also should mention that my husband and I have been working on this on and off (mostly off...lots of RL crap going on right now). We can share what we have if ppl want.

I can assure you there are not enough things being posted in the trading post as it is to even be categorized. There are just not as many people that participate in the trading post for some alternate website to work efficiently. And trust me I always look on the trading posts I always know the deals that are going down, it's the only reason I even use these forums. Everything else I post is just because I am bored and there is nothing really going on in trading post. Yeah it would be more organized and structured on some alternative website, that is if there was even anything to organize and structure in the first place, which there is not. You will find the most random things people want to buy and sell and some random auctions, that's just about all you will find on trading posts and it has never been that many to be honest. You can easily take one glance at it and be on top of all the forum deals going down. Making some other website would just make this process much more difficult, and I can promise you that not as many people want to load a different website just to see something they could see in here just the same.

Whatever you or anyone else makes I simply won't be a part of it. I will always use the forums trading post as my main deal breaker method.

It's free, it's simple, it's easy, it's perfect as it is.

[JoshuaLee]

Just go take a look at the trading post right now, nothing is new. The same stuff has been there days save for someone selling some rares and ignots. There have been like two new posts in the last couple days or something, and I did not go and check the dates on when they were posted because I already know. You only have to take like one glance at it to really know everything that is going down. It may be a fun little hobby to make some new trading website but it would be in the end just a waste of time to be honest. This is all brought on by Bigoud crying to be honest.

The Trading Post is the best feature of the forums. Trying to take it away for your own selfish reasons is just pathetic. If the trading post was removed or altered in anyway I would probably stop using the forums all together. I bet you anything 25% of the people that use the uosa forums just use it for the trading post. People will make forum accounts just to sell their crap in the game.

This is a horrible idea and it's really disappointing to be honest. But go ahead, make your little trading website, I guarantee you it won't be a success and will not get the attention you think it will get, there are simply just not enough people for it to work like that. There would be like one thing in each little category and then they would be gone in one day once the deal is finalized, then what? You got a website full of categories with one or two things in each of them. People would only look at the general trading page, which would be an exact replica of what the trading post is here.

All for what? So you can try and stop people from saying what they want? Last I checked you can say whatever the hell you want as long as it's appropriate and not against the rules. The Trading Post is not trash talk, it's business. Sometimes people saying what is on their mind (concerning their gold) comes with the territory. This is the most trammel idea I have ever heard of in my life.

So go ahead and take the best feature of the uosa forums and try and ruin it for everyone else that uses it alot.