Need a bit of "constructive crit" with a template cause...

[Zim.]

Im coming back to UO for a bit and wanna get out there killing/being killed ASAP!

So Im looking to build a warrior guy. Ive played mages and all the variations, for like ever and I wanna try something different. REALLY different. So I was thinking... An ARCHER!

Anywho, Ill admit it, Im a halo junkie. I love it. I wanna turn UO into a FPS. Im also a UO template junkie...

So I hear you dont get an alchy bonus on splode pots here, so that lightens things up a bit. Anywho heres the temp so far:

Archery (My gun)
Swords (the butt end of my gun and my knife)
Tactics
Anatomy 60
Healing 90 (recharging energy shields! )
Magery 70
Resist
Wrestling 80

Str 85 - Dex 100 - int 40

So yeah, the idea on PAPER is to just run around throwing purples like a lunatic and insta hit people with either a heavy x-bow or a poisoned hally. When things really get nasty, I can always whip out my lp katana for some beatdown. I figure I can do the trick where I get to swinging with my fast katana, then swap to a heavy x bow to get that fast shot for a finisher on runners.

So how low would YOU dare to take wrestling?

Thanks!
-Zim

[Tron]

Not going to critique the entire template because I don't really play hybrids in t2a, and never really played warrior centric hybrids.... but 85 str is too low.

Weakened from 85 str, a pot combo will probably kill you 95% of the time without a chance to heal.

And a synch will kill you much much easier as well.

My advise, no matter the template, is to use lower dex instead of lower str, and use blue pots if you must instead of using white pots because you have to. Everybody weakens here, unless you are in a tournie (free use str pots) you will almost always be fighting every fight while weakened, and as a warrior you are at even more risk in that state than your mage counterpart.

[Zim.]

Hummm... I was gonna chug both white and blue like a madman anyway....

But I se your point. Better to have 120hp and 100 dex, then getting weakened till Im outta pots and be stuck with 74hp.

Thanks!

[KydVicious]

Im coming back to UO for a bit and wanna get out there killing/being killed ASAP!

So Im looking to build a warrior guy. Ive played mages and all the variations, for like ever and I wanna try something different. REALLY different. So I was thinking... An ARCHER!

Anywho, Ill admit it, Im a halo junkie. I love it. I wanna turn UO into a FPS. Im also a UO template junkie...

So I hear you dont get an alchy bonus on splode pots here, so that lightens things up a bit. Anywho heres the temp so far:

Archery (My gun)
Swords (the butt end of my gun and my knife)
Tactics
Anatomy 60
Healing 90 (recharging energy shields! )
Magery 70
Resist
Wrestling 80

Str 85 - Dex 100 - int 40

So yeah, the idea on PAPER is to just run around throwing purples like a lunatic and insta hit people with either a heavy x-bow or a poisoned hally. When things really get nasty, I can always whip out my lp katana for some beatdown. I figure I can do the trick where I get to swinging with my fast katana, then swap to a heavy x bow to get that fast shot for a finisher on runners.

So how low would YOU dare to take wrestling?

Thanks!
-Zim

It might work at a distance but you're at a disadvantage when encountering a tank due to the mana difference and you have nothing to counter the high burst of damage they'll lay down at a distance. Toe to toe a pure dexer will wreck you if he has parry. Also, poisoned weapons are virtually useless unless you have poisoning and can just wear them out of pots and regs which can be done, but poison is too easily cured here, even DP and mages can heal while poisoned (which is bogus IMO, but that's been beat to death) so it comes down to hit and run tactics. Might be a good PK build if you put hiding in there for resist, lose wrestling and put the points in anatomy and healing and maybe 30 tracking? Don't get discouraged though, it's a decent idea and if you go with it let us know how it's working out. If you do decide on an archer PK, talk to Hardcore, he's got a good PK archer/mage build.

[Kdog77]

I would lose the wrestling alltogether, you're not going to be casting much in fights, it's kind of a waste of skill points imho. I like the idea of the template, & have run similar ones myself. I'd go with more of a pure dexer though, something along these lines:
GM arch
GM swords
GM tact
GM anat
GM heal
GM mage
GM resist

You can still do all the potion chugging/throwing you want, and you can gm all your skills if you lose wrestle. The trick is to GM magery first, work up med along with it, & let your int go up. Then when you get gm magery, drop med & your int back down. You won't be able to cast anything over 6th circle due to low int, but your heals will be great, as will buffs & debuffs, & I've found it's more than worth it to have gm magery on dexer chars.

Just my 2 cents, good luck with the char though.

[caveman]

my main in t2a was something like below. worked pretty well. likely going to lose to a parry fighter but should be competitive against everyone else.

100 tactics
100 archery
94 resist
92 magery
50 parry
100 swords
100 anatomy
64 healing
90 str 50 int 85 dex

[platypus]

IMO you're better off losing the wrestling and having GM everything else. You're also not going to need more than 50 magery if all you're casting is debuffs and mini heal. If you're just shooting the bow and then switching to a swords wep for melee you don't really need wrestling at all, except for the .5 seconds between weapon switches or while casting 1st circle.

[RoadKill]

my main in t2a was something like below. worked pretty well. likely going to lose to a parry fighter but should be competitive against everyone else.

100 tactics
100 archery
94 resist
92 magery
50 parry
100 swords
100 anatomy
64 healing
90 str 50 int 85 dex

This will not work all that well here, you'll be at 79str in most fights and lack any real ability to heal yourself (low healing skill heals, low max mana, slow mana regeneration). I guess if you don't take much damage it would work but I'd swap out that parry for more healing skill

[alcon]

Yeah kind of like what Platy said, no reason to have GM magery... I mean you'll be doing what? recall, g heal... buffs and mini heal? kind of a waste of points to gm it, if you're at 50 you won't fizzle those. Also, really no reason for parry IMO... I'm not sure exactly how that formula works but I don't even think 50 would do enough to be worth it... YOU WILL FOR SURE WANT GM HEALING!!!! that is a fact... but you can test it by having your guy attacked and test all levels of health.... maybe like 70-80ish.... 40-50ish.... 10-20ish... and see if it does enough healing. I personally would recommend GM healing. Also, GM your resist, because you'll be taking a lot of dumps and if you drop the magery to 50 and lets assume you keep the parry, that will allow you to gm your healing AND resist.

On a side note, see how you like archery as well... I've never had an archer personally, but you don't see many on the field and I'm not sure exactly how effective it is. On the bright side I get more good magic bows than any other wep, and I don't believe they are priced very high. But yeah, give it a shot and let us know how it works. Try pvping with it against a tank, and then against a dexxer, and switch it up if need be. What works for me or what I would like in a char may not be the same for you.

[caveman]

This will not work all that well here, you'll be at 79str in most fights and lack any real ability to heal yourself (low healing skill heals, low max mana, slow mana regeneration). I guess if you don't take much damage it would work but I'd swap out that parry for more healing skill

i'm a potion whore so the 90str didn't bother me much, especially with healing and parry each helping out a little. healing was just extra - i didn't rely on it at all. parry helped take the sting off halberd hits from standard tank mages. i used all of my mana for heal spells, which took a little bit to get used to without wrestling. archery was only used for the 1st shot with a heavy xbow. then switch to a dp'd kat, hally or broadsword. did fine against everyone except parry warrior and macer warrior. they would beat me down(depending on who i was fighting). kind of annoying with all the button pushing on a (mostly)warrior but don't see why it wouldn't work decently here. probably a little easier to play with razor than uoassist too.

[Zim.]

This is the temp Im gonna start with:

100 Hiding
100 Archery
90 Swords
90 Wrestling
90 Tactics
90 Healing
80 Magery
60 Anatomy

100s / 80d / 45i

Im still gonna chug and toss purples like a madman, and use reflect items in place of my resist. Ive tested healing over and over on test and have come to this conclusion. Unless Im getting MA spammed AND punched interrupted, I succeed my bandage 99% of the time and depending on how often I get hit, It heals for 30-60. If Im unmolested, I dont think I will fail and Ill heal between 50 and 60 damage per bandage. Plus at 60, I can cure poison. (not that I will if I play it right! )
If I just straight up get dominated by spells, Imna swap out hiding for resist, and use an invis item for hiding!

[RoadKill]

This is the temp Im gonna start with:

100 Hiding
100 Archery
90 Swords
90 Wrestling
90 Tactics
90 Healing
80 Magery
60 Anatomy

100s / 80d / 45i

Im still gonna chug and toss purples like a madman, and use reflect items in place of my resist. Ive tested healing over and over on test and have come to this conclusion. Unless Im getting MA spammed AND punched interrupted, I succeed my bandage 99% of the time and depending on how often I get hit, It heals for 30-60. If Im unmolested, I dont think I will fail and Ill heal between 50 and 60 damage per bandage. Plus at 60, I can cure poison. (not that I will if I play it right! )
If I just straight up get dominated by spells, Imna swap out hiding for resist, and use an invis item for hiding!

Don't count on bandages alone to keep you alive, even if you are reflecting most spells thrown at you. This template could work in select situations but I feel like you're going to spend more time as the mouse than you will spend as the cat (and sadly this isn't looney tunes, so being the mouse = not a good thing)