help on template

[BlackLeaf]

Wich one of these templates will work best here,and why?What i want basically is a thief with decent magery-based offensive skills:
#1 #2 #3 #4
steal = steal 100
snoop = snoop 100
hide = = hide 100
magery = mag 90
eval = eval 100
stealth resist wrestle med 70
med = wrest 80
resist 60

Thank you for your help

[Ifrit]

Thief mages usually worked out to be a more defensive and fleeing template than anything else. Not saying it's not possible to be moderately offensive, but necessary thief skills aren't going to leave much room. You're gonna run into problems in combat with any PvP character short of pure dexers...and even then if they have pots you're gonna have difficulty.
If you want to get the most power out of a thief mage you're gonna have to sacrifice Hiding/Stealth and play a 5x mage with snooping/stealing. Or perhaps play:
Mage
Med
Eval
Resist
Hide
Stealing
Snooping

I just don't see having numerous skills in the 70's-90's and magery as your only offense being too effective.

You can however build an extremely hard to kill thief mage thats pure defense. For the most part though, effective PvP thieves are usually dexers

[archaicsubrosa77]

As far as mage thieves go you want a stealther.

Stealth
Hide
Snoop
Steal
Magery
Meditation/or resist
Wrestling...

Unless you name your character a beast you can morph into then you could do

Magery
Resist
Meditation
Hide or Evaluating Intelligence...depends is this primarily a thief or a PVMer that hits people in dungeons.
Wrestling
Snoop
Steal...

Be quick you only have 100 secs to do it in

[Downs]

what they say is true, u cant really be a pvp thief mage extremely effectively. If you steal from a blue and they attack u, you cant fight back for 2 mins or u'll get a murder count and be kicked out of the thieves guild till ur count is gone.

Depends on how you wanna play, if you wanna be a stealth pk, do:

Hiding
Stealth
Combat Skill
Tactics
Magery
Eval Int
Medi or resist, probably medi cause the idea is to jump em while weak.

If ur not into pking, and want to dungeon steal:
Hiding
Stealth
Snoop
Steal
Magery
Meditation
7th skill of ur choosing. I went tracking/wrestling split cause it fits my playstyle

If you're into in town stealing, make a standard dexxer with stealing
Weap skill
Tactics
Healing
Anat
Snoop
Steal
Hiding

Unless ur a dexxer thief, the general idea is to get in and out as fast as possible because even if u kill them, they report u for murder. Even with a dexxer thief, you gotta wait out the 2 mins before u can fight back.

No template is the right or wrong choice, it depends on what you want to do. If you can provide some more info, we can answer a bit better

[archaicsubrosa77]

Be careful though anyone can bank all their stuff grab a tinkertrap, drink a few greater poisons etc then slap you once causing you to auto defend then blow themself up, or poison themselves to kick you from your guild.

[Daolin]

Be careful though anyone can bank all their stuff grab a tinkertrap, drink a few greater poisons etc then slap you once causing you to auto defend then blow themself up, or poison themselves to kick you from your guild.

defense shouldn't give a count. Its the offender (the person that slaps)

[Sandro]

You can always drop hiding and use invisibility for stealth..

[Chance]

Wich one of these templates will work best here,and why?What i want basically is a thief with decent magery-based offensive skills:
#1 #2 #3 #4
steal = steal 100
snoop = snoop 100
hide = = hide 100
magery = mag 90
eval = eval 100
stealth resist wrestle med 70
med = wrest 80
resist 60

Thank you for your help

If you're set on having a mage thief:

1) 5x mage + snoop/steal

2) 3x mage (mage/med/wrestle) + snoop/steal + hide/stealth

Make 2 identical named/looking/dressing chars. Have the "best" of both worlds.

If you're into in town stealing, make a standard dexxer with stealing
Weap skill
Tactics
Healing
Anat
Snoop
Steal
Hiding

This is the type of thief I enjoyed playing on UOSA, only I took 80 heal / 20 magery (trapped pouches & better chance to recall). Very cheap to play as you can pretty much steal/loot the weapons/bandages/pots you need. Had a lot of success hiding & waiting out the initial flag & then baiting the mark into attacking me - stealing 1 meaningless item can often lead to killing an angry foe & looting everything they had. Very effective if you play cheap against any magic casters and duck into town guards (only really have to worry about poison & mages who will call backup and para/hally you down w/ a group). Great if you want to screw around in Brit GY, other areas close to town that have vendors/activity around them, and low-mid level spawns where you can target the other PvM'rs. I was never a "town thief" on this char unless someone I was perma grey to decided to attack me in town & flag grey to me ... then it's all fair game.

[BlackLeaf]

ok thank all of you for your replies
btw the message i wrote was f***ed up by the formatting so im not sure if u have understood the templates i was talking about.they are:
1 steal snoop hide stealth mag med eval
2 same but resist for stealth
3 same but wrestle for stealth
4 steal,snoop,hide,eval @ 100, mag@90,med@70,wrest@80 and resist @60

and the fact is:i cant renounce magery,damn it:p
what about this:
5 snoop steal hide tactics weapon magery medi? 100/80/45

If u say that noone of this will ever work i will go with the dex template suggested by Chance with 20 magery
no magery i consider to be a real pain,i had it on all my chars and go without i cant imagine
no reflect no invis no 100% recall no a lot of stuff, but if this is the way of the t2a thief,i will take a try

[Daolin]

ok thank all of you for your replies
btw the message i wrote was f***ed up by the formatting so im not sure if u have understood the templates i was talking about.they are:
1 steal snoop hide stealth mag med eval
2 same but resist for stealth
3 same but wrestle for stealth
4 steal,snoop,hide,eval @ 100, mag@90,med@70,wrest@80 and resist @60

and the fact is:i cant renounce magery,damn it:p
what about this:
5 snoop steal hide tactics weapon magery medi? 100/80/45

If u say that noone of this will ever work i will go with the dex template suggested by Chance with 20 magery
no magery i consider to be a real pain,i had it on all my chars and go without i cant imagine
no reflect no invis no 100% recall no a lot of stuff, but if this is the way of the t2a thief,i will take a try

yah, thats an epic fail template. The only way you're going to have a template that can steal and actually kill someone is a dexxer.

[archaicsubrosa77]

steal
snoop
mage
meditation
wrestling
Tactics
Macing