K^A are now considered a pk guild. Zsv update last post.

[exince]

lol.. guess now i know why I get randomly attacked with my guy who has the guildtitle "SoA for life". Actually that was my guild back on the old OSI days and has nothing to do with SoA on the server, but their bad reputation would explain. haha

[Plague]

As a fairly new member to K^A i can say i have been ganked sooo many times just because of my tag. Now that we go out and grief some griefers we are an all out pk guild? As in any guild i've seen, we have a few pk's in our midst. They do not attack in Ascalon unless provoked as far as i know, that is still a rule that we abide by. We are a target because of our size but our size is because we have a lot of new players that we try to help get started. I don,t know of many other guilds that do the same thing. As for running into a keep when attacked...........it all depends how many are attacking at once. I dont see a point in trying to fight off 4 or 5 people by myself lol.

[GuardianKnight]

I started this thread because you all out gank pked me in a dungeon with 6 people. Pretty sure i'm on the top of the list of non griefers. I'm giving you what every new pk guild wants....i'm advertising for you.

You want to be a pk gank squad, you'll be known for it.

You won't get to sneak up on someone by hiding behind a name that was neutral in the past again.
Now everyone will expect an attack when you walk on the screen.

[Hyder]

I have been in K^A for a while, it is still a rule not to attack people in our town unless they attack first or is a known griefing guild. Everyone else in prefectly safe. Why would we kill people coming to do business with us, that is just silly. As far as tower hiding, I run like a little girl to my tower, a pvper I am not.. Dama runs a good guild, K^A was the only ones willing to show me the ways of UO, when I first joined the server.. People are always in our town looking for a fight, I apologize if some shoppers got killed with some collateral damage.

[Damascus]

GK, sorry if you got ganked. i was not on that night. if i was, i would of stopped them knowing you where a target.

we do have a lot of new players, new to PvP.
yes, ill be the first to say i hide in my castle when 10 people are outside looking for blood. even if its just 1... lol, i am a blacksmith !!

my rules still apply with no killing in KA, unless attacked. (our main vendors are there)

back to the gank squad that got you GK, not sure who it was, but probably a group that was doing what has been done to them so often.

thanks to the other KA members/friends of KA, that have replied. i have been reading this topic since GK started it. i wasnt sure what to say.

my main goal still applies.
that is to help players get a foot hold on this shard. once they make friends in or out of KA they follow their own path.

many players stay in KA or at least have a char in KA cause of the friendships/TRUST made within the guild.

[Psilo]

Damascus, your guild is in shambles. It's outta your control, K^A is full of blue pks who deceive and kill you behind your back.

I say, disband K^A and let people who wanna PK start their own guild do that while newbies can go get help from people who don't blue pk bards.

[Mikel123]

Damascus, your guild is in shambles. It's outta your control, K^A is full of blue pks who deceive and kill you behind your back.

I say, disband K^A and let people who wanna PK start their own guild do that while newbies can go get help from people who don't blue pk bards.

irony

[Psilo]

Damascus, your guild is in shambles. It's outta your control, K^A is full of blue pks who deceive and kill you behind your back.

I say, disband K^A and let people who wanna PK start their own guild do that while newbies can go get help from people who don't blue pk bards.

irony

The only people who have problems with Zsv are the ones who are smart asses and tried to 'start shit'. Aka POO, K^A, and countless solo players ect.


Guilds like PoV and Zsv are easy to criticize and grief because of our views and stance....and we seem to get more flames than pk ganksquad guilds it seems lol.

[Damascus]

Damascus, your guild is in shambles. It's outta your control, K^A is full of blue pks who deceive and kill you behind your back.

no one is behind my back.
Blue pks cant be blue pks everyday... or they wont be blue very long...
i welcome all types of players. they can be red if they want.

I don't join in the PKing/griefing like some of the leaders of Zvs.

[punk]

I don't join in the PKing/griefing like some of the leaders of Zvs.

The line between PKing and griefing is very thick. Do not mix the two up. Zsv does not grief anyone, ever. I don't know where you got that.

As far as PKing... PK just means Player Killing... it really has no basis on good v evil, red v blue. ANYONE who PvPs outside of tournaments is essentially a PK ... unless they are 100% defensive. Zsv doesn't PK innocents, every character we kill is either red, has a red main, rolls with reds, is a griefer/thief, talked shit, is a blue PK, etc...

I don't really know what people expect from an anti-PK guild...? Do you expect us to kill your reds, then rez you and give your shit back, and be really friendly to you on your blues and to your blue friends, and just ignore you when you talk shit? Go red, roll with reds, be a thief or griefer, and you will become a target to Zsv...

[Damascus]

The line between PKing and griefing is very thick. Do not mix the two up. Zsv does not grief anyone, ever. I don't know where you got that.

As far as PKing... PK just means Player Killing... it really has no basis on good v evil, red v blue. ANYONE who PvPs outside of tournaments is essentially a PK ... unless they are 100% defensive. Zsv doesn't PK innocents, every character we kill is either red, has a red main, rolls with reds, is a griefer/thief, talked shit, is a blue PK, etc...

i didnt mean to put pking and griefing together. i ment that i very rarely participate in both. i do have a thief and a red tinker.

One day at my castle, 5 or so Zsv dudes killed my miner and other alt chars. fun to watch your Anti-pk guild members go red.


you should look in the mirror with your guild b4 you judge others.

[punk]

One day at my castle, 5 or so Zsv dudes killed my miner and other alt chars. fun to watch your Anti-pk guild members go red.


you should look in the mirror with your guild b4 you judge others.

Yea, because K^A has been rolling around dungeons with ganksquads killing farmers. Sorry your miners died, but that miner could just as easily have been the miner of a member of the constant blue gank squads.

Again, like I said in my previous post ... Zsv kills griefers, reds, alts of griefers and reds, guildmembers in notorious guilds such as SoA and K^A (as of recently).

K^A ganksquads killed a bunch of Zsv blue farmers and alt characters in dungeons, and expects the diplomacy between us to still be positive? If you don't have any sort of rules in place to stop people in your guild from killing innocents, then the real innocent people in your guild will be the true victims.

We didn't just show up to your town and start killing innocents at random...


As far as Zsv members killing true innocents, all situations have been appropriately handled, members have been kicked out, talked to, or otherwise disciplined. And all instances are isolated, any indication that a member of Zsv is going on rampages, or rolling in gank squads, and he will immediately be unaffiliated with Zsv. In a game as open as UO, you can't control all of your members 100% of the time.

Note* I am but a member of Zsv, and am only saying this stuff from my perspective. I do not lead or make decisions in any way shape or form for Zsv. I have watched Orphik lead his guild and respect all of his decisions so far, and am only here trying to back him up.

[pablo]

Can't we all agree if you start a guild that is anti-griefer, people will go to great lengths to join that guild to grief the guild? My point is anti-pk/griefer guilds will never be perfect unless they were all IRL friends and kept it down to like 5 people. We as Zsv have to take some risk on who we accept in the guild sometimes as we are here to help the new guys get going in the game. That comes back to bite us sometimes, but we really do try to weed out the bad.

[Oneiros]

Just to clarify, I have been killed for zero reason by K^A members. I have been simply killing monsters on my bard at full health, and ganked by K^A people. The argument that they go red from killing blue PKs or that they kill other griefers doesn't hold water.

[uofuntime]

K^A is shady. I witnessed Chim of K^A casting reveal on innocent bankers of east britain bank, and then using his alt Jimmy (?) to steal. How rude!