blue PKs

[nightshark]

I'm admirable now and will try liches later tonight.

If you're gaining anything more than some/little, then it still hasn't been changed. Derrick probably won't look at this thread

[Lazarus]

I'm admirable now and will try liches later tonight.

If you're gaining anything more than some/little, then it still hasn't been changed. Derrick probably won't look at this thread

Lets hope not. hehe.

I looked at a post I made on another board back in 04/05 (I believe SE was out) and I said that my fighter had gotten Illustrious from Air Elementals. I'm fighting them on here and I'm only gaining a little fame.

[nightshark]

I'm admirable now and will try liches later tonight.

If you're gaining anything more than some/little, then it still hasn't been changed. Derrick probably won't look at this thread

Lets hope not. hehe.

I looked at a post I made on another board back in 04/05 (I believe SE was out) and I said that my fighter had gotten Illustrious from Air Elementals. I'm fighting them on here and I'm only gaining a little fame.

Fame/Karma was bumped up for nearly all monsters some time shortly after UO:R. I'm sure there is a patch note about it (stratics & UO official site is banned from my work). I always enjoyed the fame/karma system so I paid close attention to it. It can help to relieve boredom while hunting if there is a long term payoff other than gold accumulating

It's very easy on UOSA to manipulate your title, thieves can just set up a macro res killing a red in order to keep in positive karma (and look less suspicious). Blue PKs are hard to spot since they are not forced into negative karma upon receiving a count.

[Lazarus]

I'm admirable now and will try liches later tonight.

If you're gaining anything more than some/little, then it still hasn't been changed. Derrick probably won't look at this thread

Lets hope not. hehe.

I looked at a post I made on another board back in 04/05 (I believe SE was out) and I said that my fighter had gotten Illustrious from Air Elementals. I'm fighting them on here and I'm only gaining a little fame.

Fame/Karma was bumped up for nearly all monsters some time shortly after UO:R. I'm sure there is a patch note about it (stratics & UO official site is banned from my work). I always enjoyed the fame/karma system so I paid close attention to it. It can help to relieve boredom while hunting if there is a long term payoff other than gold accumulating

It's very easy on UOSA to manipulate your title, thieves can just set up a macro res killing a red in order to keep in positive karma (and look less suspicious). Blue PKs are hard to spot since they are not forced into negative karma upon receiving a count.

I know I like positive fame/karma too. My main on OSI was Glorious Lord and my dexxer was Illustrious.

What do you mean the blue pk isn't forced into negative karma? Don't you get negative karma when you kill someone?

[nightshark]

I know I like positive fame/karma too. My main on OSI was Glorious Lord and my dexxer was Illustrious.

What do you mean the blue pk isn't forced into negative karma? Don't you get negative karma when you kill someone?

You lose karma on UOSA for murder, but not very much of it. You would have to murder a lot of blues to even get into negative karma, if you were previously a glorious lord. On OSI it didn't matter what your current karma was, it would be forced into negative regardless. It was changed to a negative amount based upon your current long term kill count (if you already had lower than the set value for your kill count #, you didn't lose karma).

On UOSA you lose karma upon killing a blue, not upon receiving a murder count. This was not the case.

Does noone recall that a good indication that you had received a murder count was randomly receiving the message "you have lost a lot of karma"? If someone didn't count you straight away (for various reasons... disconnected/logged out), you'd randomly receive that message when they did finally give you a kill count. This could be hours after you'd actually committed the murder.

The karma system on UOSA is a mix of RunUO defaults and UO:R karma values (obviously Derrick has started putting in some T2A ones now).