K^A are now considered a pk guild. Zsv update last post.

[Lazarus]

This is one of the reasons I will never join a guild, trust a guild, or start a guild.

[Psilo]

One day at my castle, 5 or so Zsv dudes killed my miner and other alt chars. fun to watch your Anti-pk guild members go red.


you should look in the mirror with your guild b4 you judge others.

That attack was a direct order of myself, we killed you because you were wearing the K^A abbreviation and/or are a part of K^A.

I am fully aware that you were a miner. Not only do we kill K^A but we're trying to give your kingdom a message. Being in K^A is more than just a convenient LARGE guild chat room. It's a title that represents an affiliation that you are a part of.

You can't expect to wear K^A and not be accountable for what your guild has done in dungeons lol. Change or choose your direction! Right now your kingdom is in shambles!

[BenBrawl]

sooo let me get this straight, for example...

a noob, who as just join the shard is out farming, but just joined K^A, Zsv will pk him just because hes in K^A? has nothing to do with the fact that he would have just joined the shard? that sounds to me that Zsv is nothing but a cover up name for griefers and pks....

yes my main Ben Brawl dealt the killing blow to GK, and im sorry, if it makes you fill any better i gave the gold to a noob to help him! but this is a damn game. people play it as they want. Ive never and will never kill a noob, i only pk when im very bored and only attack players that can fight back. yes GK was on a tamer, but he could have easily healed, called the drags, recalled. Call K^A and its members what ever, but im pretty sure everyones pked or griefed someone before. once again, its just a game man...let it go...

im sorry that not everyone agrees with the way some of my fellow members act, but for the most part, id say the guild 50% noobs. theres just some of us that feel farming titans and dragons gets boring, and want alil more adventure. When i placed my house in the great Zsv kingdom, i was INSTANTLY attacked by about 4 of its members....now mind you this was on a noob with no K^A title. you didnt even know who my alts were at the time. so please stop trying to make Zsv sound so glorified. Your guild is no different than K^A....

[Psilo]

I was just actually going to mention. Clearly if they were a total newb we won't kill them. Instead we'll give them advice and information on what K^A does so they can make the decision later.

If they decide to stay in K^A then once they can defend for themselves(become established and GM) or "Become a K^A Soldier" they are then ready to die for the K^A cause *grin*.

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[iamantitype]

It sounds to me like KA and Zsv are both pulling the "he said she said" card.
Both guilds feel slighted by the other, both attacked the others in instances where they were unprovoked for the purpose of retribution. I'd say it's even! Instead of playing the "you started it" game, call it a draw.

The GK incident...I was there. You got caught in the crossfire, sorry. It was a hit that was planned for someone else.

If killing a few blues and getting involved in battles makes K^A a pk guild, then advertise it how you see fit if it makes you feel better.

[BenBrawl]

but but but...how does a MINER defend him self? you didnt even know it was Dama....and even if you did hes NEVER taken part in pking or even pvp as far as ive seen! please explain how u say you wouldnt kill a person who cant defend themselves, but then pk a miner?

[BenBrawl]

It sounds to me like KA and Zsv are both pulling the "he said she said" card.
Both guilds feel slighted by the other, both attacked the others in instances where they were unprovoked for the purpose of retribution. I'd say it's even! Instead of playing the "you started it" game, call it a draw.

The GK incident...I was there. You got caught in the crossfire, sorry. It was a hit that was planned for someone else.

If killing a few blues and getting involved in battles makes K^A a pk guild, then advertise it how you see fit if it makes you feel better.

QFT,

we never set out looking for GK, as i stated before we were out looking for Zsv and SoA. GK was just in a bad spot at the wrong time.

Zsv always comes to K^A like clockwork, and attacks one of our red players, as a guild we defend one another, so of course we are going to attack back. Ive never attacked a Zsv until they have attacked one of my red guildys!

[MatronDeWinter]

a. Why is this in Discussions?

b. They both noto-kill and claim "well that was a pk/thief/whatever's alt".

c. At least K^A has red characters

d. Who freaking cares what these guilds say about themselves.

e. Almost everyone will pk you if they can/will take the count and think they can succeed. C'est la vie

[iamantitype]

b. Yes. I don't think either guild would claim they're free of players that do this.

c. Yep.

d. Anyone that doesn't care doesn't need to read the thread.

e. Exactly. With three accounts per IP people have nothing to lose if their coveted mage goes into stat loss and dies. Having nothing to lose shows the true nature of the people that play this game. If you're smart you won't be victimized that often, and if you have some sense of a conscience in the online world then you'll be a little selective about the kills you make. Sometimes those kills will be misinterpreted, but I remember the people that kill my miner and I come back and do what they did to me on one of my characters that can fight.

[Layt]

Tldr;

Cliffs:
[X] SoA full of douchebags
[X] jill/bongy is in K^A
[X] K^A must suck if jill is in it

[Damascus]

I am fully aware that you were a miner. Not only do we kill K^A but we're trying to give your kingdom a message. Being in K^A is more than just a convenient LARGE guild chat room. It's a title that represents an affiliation that you are a part of.

You can't expect to wear K^A and not be accountable for what your guild has done in dungeons lol. Change or choose your direction! Right now your kingdom is in shambles!

who's guild is in shambles?
KA is place for all player types/styles/ personalities.
we are very active.

For an anti pk/griefing guild. i think your guild is "in shambles".

[KydVicious]

I am fully aware that you were a miner. Not only do we kill K^A but we're trying to give your kingdom a message. Being in K^A is more than just a convenient LARGE guild chat room. It's a title that represents an affiliation that you are a part of.

You can't expect to wear K^A and not be accountable for what your guild has done in dungeons lol. Change or choose your direction! Right now your kingdom is in shambles!

who's guild is in shambles?
KA is place for all player types/styles/ personalities.
we are very active.

For an anti pk/griefing guild. i think your guild is "in shambles".

Exactamundo.......ZSV the guild that advertised itself when it was starting that they were strictly ANTI-PK has now become a bunch of PK wannabes. Psilo you are a GM who is driving a bus with no brakes and headin for a cliff, your guys are really a bunch of immature assholes who I take delight in killin on-sight, why you ask, well it works for them...right? As far as KA I really can't believe that they allow themselves to stoop to ZSV's level, Damascus, I'm surprised that you would allow this to go on. A sad state of affairs all the way around.

[Mikel123]

One day at my castle, 5 or so Zsv dudes killed my miner and other alt chars. fun to watch your Anti-pk guild members go red.


you should look in the mirror with your guild b4 you judge others.

That attack was a direct order of myself, we killed you because you were wearing the K^A abbreviation and/or are a part of K^A.

I am fully aware that you were a miner. Not only do we kill K^A but we're trying to give your kingdom a message. Being in K^A is more than just a convenient LARGE guild chat room. It's a title that represents an affiliation that you are a part of.

You can't expect to wear K^A and not be accountable for what your guild has done in dungeons lol. Change or choose your direction! Right now your kingdom is in shambles!

I love it.

You went from only killing reds, to killing the alleged alts of reds, to killing blue PKers, to killing innocents who are in a guild with blue PKers.

Welcome to the dark side. How long did that take, to go from newbie-haven guild to PK guild? Two months?

[KydVicious]

LOL, only their version of the dark side is more like.

[punk]

I joined Zsv the day I came to UOSA and was helped tremendously. As a now established player I help noobs not only in Zsv but also members of other guilds. Protecting people while they farm, giving advice and equiptment, or gating people around.

When a friend and a guild member comes on guild chat saying a K^A ganksquad just rolled through and PKd him in a dungeon, you DAMNED right in 10 seconds you'll find me in K^A's town getting retribution.

It's called .... guild accountability. You cannot have a guild where each of their members stands completely separate and are judged 100% on their own deeds. It's kinda aversive to the very nature of a guild in the first place. If K^A starts having ganksquads, then all members will pay. If you don't want to be accountable for the sleazy gankers in your guild, tell them to turn the guild abbreviation off above their head.

I have never once killed an innocent when I wasn't provoked, attacked, knew it was an alt of a griefer/ known farmer killer. And I'm willing to bet 98% of Zsv shares my exact sentiments.

If anyone has any information on people in our guild killing innocents, feel free to let us know with specific details. Thanks.