Gave it a shot

[Mikel123]

Brit graveyard is probably the coolest location in any game ever. Everyone knows it's the worst place in the shard to hunt, because it's infested with players that stop by solely for the new player prey. And yet, everyone still goes there as a new player. It's uncanny.

Anyways... if you have a problem with a thief in the Brit graveyard... you're like 5 seconds away from town! Just run to town! See if Gregory on a horse can outrun Felicia the Guard. I doubt it.

[RoboSamurai]

Thieves were a huge annoyance at first for me as well. Get yourself a crate, wooden box or chest. Keep your regeants, arrows, bandies, potions inside it and use magic lock. If the container is over 10 stones, the box and everything inside 100% safe from being stolen while locked. Pick a safer area to grind in. I would recommend buying 30 taming and taming horses, as well. Train archery, it's a great PvM weapon and undervalued in PvP.

A tank mage will wreck your day, but to really compete with them you will need high resist, magic reflection, potions and enough magery to spam mini heals.

Keep at it, I know of Gregory, been thieved from him before. After I got the box and straight up asked him if he could steal, he couldn't.

There are a lot of people who play a variety of ways here, some are not conducive to friendly fun play. As much as I dislike some ways of playing, everyone has a right within legal game mechanics to play as they will. Also, find a guild, there are many lighthearted, decent guilds out there which would give you people to play with + help you progress.

You fail when you give up, not when you fall down.

So, stay or go, but give the above some consideration.

Also, welcome to UOSA.

[Oswald]

Don't listen to everyone being a faggot towards you simply because they're already used to the griefery and you aren't.

Starting out is really hard here because there's a lot more shitheads on the server than there were on the OSI servers. Furthermore a lot of people are already well established and love to go piss on newbies.

One thing this game will teach you, the hard way, is how to be a smart player.

Also, stuff in this game is pretty easy to come by for the most part. I stupidly recalled into town today before my grey status wore off, because I forgot all about it, and died with 6k gold on me, a bag with a bunch of regs, a bag with some magic items off titans, etc. and had my corpse fully looted (the PK's usually just take the gold and regs and leave the clothes lol).

It sucked but it's all easily replacable with a little bit of gameplay.

[macil22]

Here is some advice based on what I did when I started here. I was not very experienced either, I played mainly UO:R, I've never played a free shard before this, no experience with razor, t2a pvp or crap like that.

Put the guy you are playing aside and make a new guy. Start with 50 provoke and 50 magery. Log in and don't even move, come to this forum and do a search for provoke macro. You go to moonglow zoo or any stable, set it up so you provoke an animal onto yourself from behind a fence. You can play the instrument every half second or so, and provoke every 10 or 11 seconds if it succeeds and 6 seconds if it fails. Anyways it takes a couple hours to get gm music, and a few days of constant macro to get gm provoke but it costs nothing if you use your newbie instrument.

Once you do that you will have a relatively easy time making money. I started in Skara, macrod in the stable there. If you want to get to playing you can prob safely provoke with 80 skill and gm music. chance of success is (music + provoke) / 2. So once you feel comfortable go just outside of skara and provoke the small orc camp, collect gold and a couple regs, and sell boots and weapons in town.

Once you have enough money for a horse save up for a lighting scroll from the mage vendors.

Now you are ready to go to destard (prepare to die a lot though). Go in, if it is overrun with pk's just try again later, try to run to skara if possible but you will prob run out of stamina and die. Otherwise go in and provoke crap on each other, once you loot a few things run out and go straight to town. Use lighting to finish stuff off. Don't get greedy because you will get caught esp when you have 40 or so str and only 20ish dex. The goal is to get about 7kish gold. Once you do buy up skills in town until you hit the 700 cap. Do buy stuff you will use like meditation, resist, evaluating intelligence etc, don't buy herding, spirit speak or snooping though. Look up stat gain guide here to find out how to max your stats.

Once you do that you are home free. You will get lots of scrolls from dragons and drakes, you will prob come close to finishing off circle 3-7 of your spell book if you do it for a while. You can buy up the lower circles from vendors. Get a few k gold and buy a few hundred mandrake and ash and find a mgery macro that you can use in town until you can safely cast mark and recall. This makes making money easier. Keep up that process and aim for buying a small house, you can still find places to drop them. Make a second acct for a heal bot with 50 healing 50 anat. Macro in your house and you will be 7x in no time.

[uofuntime]

Well I gave it a shot, put in some time, got up my anatomy and hiding a little bit in hopes of having at least a little chance out in the world.

Unfortunately I don't think this shard is for me, after dying to PKers several times (and yes, I expected this as a PvP type server) I was set upon by a thief who thought it would be humorous to steal everything in my bag while fighting a skeleton. I don't know exactly how he was doing this, he would literally walk by me, and then teleport on his horse to another location on my screen and then things would go missing from my bag. For example my 58 gold, bandages, dagger, etc. Things that were obviously quite valuable, at least to a new player. So I did what I felt right and asked him to stop as I was a new player, and of course he didn't. I attacked him and he killed me, twice. I hope that gave Gregory a murder count, but I'm not up to speed on how that works anymore.

I think that I had a leg up previously as I had established myself before Renaissance had come out, but as a new player you are just subject to the whims of others with no chance to fight back.

Take care all.

You are GM in the honor system! =)

[Braden]

You can always page a Counselor and they can help acclamate you to the game. They can give you advice and general tips on what is good to do and stuff best to be avoided.

Also, you get hop onto irc (irc.wildirc.net #secondage) where many players can also give you advice.

There are many resources available to new players.

[Lazarus]

I remember when I joined the shard almost 3 months ago. I have lots of various UO experience through different eras so I didnt die as much as when I first started on OSI but I did die, heck alot too, not just from pks but moreso from monsters while I was trying to hunt and train skill. Orcs hit hard and drain stamina.

Anyways I found out that it was important to get that 100 str FAST. So thats my recommendation, train your stats first and then macro your skills and then adventure.

[uofuntime]

Okay, so I couldn't help it but replied about you in another thread. http://forum.uosecondage.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=16983 I hope you read it:

Although I have experienced this type of treatment as a new player, it doesn't really bother me. It's just a game... a free shard. That guy from the other thread is super sensitive. I was like "are you kidding me?". He seems like a polite enough guy but he needs a reality check. I wouldn't say it's a problem with this shard, but rather this is the way people act on the internet. He challenges griefers by putting himself out there in one of the most hostile/grief-ed locations on this shard (Brit GY)... No new player should expect this type of carebear treatment--I certainly didn't. "Don't pk me I'm new" ... "Alright, sorry." <-- If that worked people would be pulling the "new player card" all the time. And he was also flabbergasted at how someone stole all his stuff while "teleporting" to different locations... I think the thief was stealthing. I rolled my eyes at how he "explained he was new and politely asked for his stuff back"... and then attacked the guy when he didn't give it back--and died twice. Call me heartless, but the reason things like this happen is not because of the "immature" player base, it's the game mechanics that allow this. I'm sure if WoW offered non-consensual pvp, stealing, and total looting, grieving would be rampant there as well.

Another thing, I think the guy's problem is he doesn't like to be at the bottom of the barrel and wants to get to the top of the crop--fast. He doesn't really seem like he enjoys the game for what it is, but he has so much ego and wants it nurtured. If you want a piece of the cake you got to earn it. The T2A style shard is not for him for sure.

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how am I ever going to get ahead?

@Elowick: I don't know why I get this idea but you seem like you'd become a total ego-maniac if you ever "made it". Like, you'd start a huge guild of newbies and twink them so they'd call you Lord. Also, what you described in your original post should not deter you from playing, it should spark a desire to learn and play even more! You should be thinking "Hmm, how can I find a way to avoid those thieves...?" and "I must develop an escape plan when I see pks!".

And how are you going to survive by raising anatomy and hiding "a little"? You're crazy. Judge Judy needs to yell at you.

Another thing I noticed wrong with your post: How sure are you that your items were worthless to that thief? He could very well be a new player as well. What shard did you used to play? This shard is not like OSI or Hybrid. Little things and resources are of value. Bandages must be cut one by one. If you take a look at the low value items players sell on vendors, you can see that it's not all about million GP rares. This shard is still very fresh, so don't think it's you against a shard of veterans. The skill cap is 100 (unlike 120 on OSI) so there is not a huge divide between a newb and a 7x GM char. Work at your character. Even if you gain 1 skill point that's "getting ahead". With a little desire to learn and a bit of ingenuity, it's fairly easy to get 7x GM (yes, even taking the resources required for training in consideration).

[Smelly Ira]

You know I hate to say it..but honestly anyone starting here will save themselves alot of misery if they just do something safe and innocuous (kill overland spawn, mine, make shirts, whatever) to make enough money for a macro house, and enough money to finish your character, whether that means resources for crafting, reagents for macroing magery, or money for NPC's to spar.

The sad fact is a large portion of the shard plays only on finished characters...if you run around killing stuff on a character that is truly new in terms of skills, you are at a huge disadvantage trying to deal with the pks here. So yeah, figure out how much money is need to finish you character, farm that amount + small house, get to macroing and be done with it. PLenty of guilds and people with have macro houses you can use too.

PS to uofuntime, I doubt the thieves on him are new, I haven't seen many reds or thieves i've been attacked by that weren't on finished templates as far as I could tell...and I use myuosa pretty religiously.

Elowick: Read the "guides" section here on the forums to figure out how to macro everthing, and get to it..will make life easier trust me.

Isn't era-accurate, takes some of the fun out of the game, but it's how things go here.
I felt exactly the same way when I started until I did the above, now at least with finished characters I can do what I want and stand a good chance of escape.

[Horvik]

I remember going to newbie spawn in WOW and level 60 players killing off level 20-30 players just to ruin their fun, there was no gain in it. Just regular killing and forcing them to respawn and lose time. In uo there is at least 80% of the time some point with it.

[MatronDeWinter]

I remember going to newbie spawn in WOW and level 60 players killing off level 20-30 players just to ruin their fun, there was no gain in it. Just regular killing and forcing them to respawn and lose time. In uo there is at least 80% of the time some point with it.

That about sums it up

[CandleJack]

I'm glad I'm not one of those new players that got pked.

Ofc even if you tried to pk me, you wouldn't out run me, i am a god at running away.

I remember going to newbie spawn in WOW and level 60 players killing off level 20-30 players just to ruin their fun, there was no gain in it. Just regular killing and forcing them to respawn and lose time. In uo there is at least 80% of the time some point with it.

lol i did that on WoW private servrs, i would run around with a lvl 70 and pk lvl 1-60s just to grief and waste time, wat fun it was.

[Arcott Ramathorn]

http://forum.uosecondage.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17344

[Psilo]

Don't give up!