Join Order or Chaos.

[Iced Earth]

Ok they have the main mechanical problem fixed in the pvp mechanics now. You can now truly swing on the run. It's pretty fun now.

Now it's time to start pimping Order/Chaos combat. Everyone just needs to decide what they stand for, and join Order or Chaos.

Instead of just standing around outside of houses in the GY? Or waiting to gank someone who goes grey or what have you. Join Order or Chaos.

Do you believe in maintaining a relative amount of civility in society, striking down those who would have no laws or justice? A person of Order?

Or does your ideology see no boundaries pertaining to law and order, seeing no restriction to partake of the sins of the flesh? Murdering, robbing, raping, and bearing down with ferocity against your oppressors? A person of Chaos?


**AND HEY GUYS lets try to discourage Order killing Order and Chaos killing Chaos. It just destroys the sense of community for the sake of an easy gank now and then.**


The battleground lately has been the Britain Graveyard. Choose your side, and work together to vanquish the curs of the opposite ideology!

[Psilo]

Yes, pvp has been huge lately since the patch everyone should look into it. But we must not fight in town as much.

Vesper strip sounds nice, but it's by town?

Dungeons are a great place for o/c to look for fights too since you'll encounter reds(more pvp).

I think dungeons like deceit make excellent pvp spots.

[JimmyTheDriver]

I had my first taste of swing on the run last night... grey vs Iced Earth and a friend... speaking of GY ganks.

Anyway - wow did dexers get a bump with this past patch. Definitely a game changer.

And I agree with the Order/Chaos - makes for alot of fun. Unfortunately people will always attack those of their own faction, but such is life I guess.

-Jimmy

[Iced Earth]

We are trying to spread the word of not attacking those of your own faction.

But greys and reds will be attacked on sight as always.

People seriously need to start joining order or chaos though. Most people in the graveyard just stand around blue and hope for the chance to Blue Heal their pals who are actual fighters or just jump in and para gank people. It's pretty pathetic. Back in the day, if you wanted to pvp at all, you joined O / C. There were still blue healers and lamers like that, but here it's VERY prevalent. Most people are afraid to be real fighters, so they just stay blue.

[SighelmofWyrmgard]

Ok they have the main mechanical problem fixed in the pvp mechanics now. You can now truly swing on the run. It's pretty fun now.

Now it's time to start pimping Order/Chaos combat. Everyone just needs to decide what they stand for, and join Order or Chaos.

Instead of just standing around outside of houses in the GY? Or waiting to gank someone who goes grey or what have you. Join Order or Chaos.

Do you believe in maintaining a relative amount of civility in society, striking down those who would have no laws or justice? A person of Order?

Or does your ideology see no boundaries pertaining to law and order, seeing no restriction to partake of the sins of the flesh? Murdering, robbing, raping, and bearing down with ferocity against your oppressors? A person of Chaos?


**AND HEY GUYS lets try to discourage Order killing Order and Chaos killing Chaos. It just destroys the sense of community for the sake of an easy gank now and then.**


The battleground lately has been the Britain Graveyard. Choose your side, and work together to vanquish the curs of the opposite ideology!

If you are going to exhort players to make a role-playing-style choice regarding which faction they will join, to add some "substance" to their PvP, how about you get your basic facts straight?

The difference(s) between the idealogies of Order and Chaos in Ultima Online has absolutely nothing to do with any of the things you have mentioned.

SS

[Psilo]

The difference(s) between the idealogies of Order and Chaos in Ultima Online has absolutely nothing to do with any of the things you have mentioned.

True, but Iced Earth just trying to set an example regardless of the actual lore.

[Iced Earth]

Ok they have the main mechanical problem fixed in the pvp mechanics now. You can now truly swing on the run. It's pretty fun now.

Now it's time to start pimping Order/Chaos combat. Everyone just needs to decide what they stand for, and join Order or Chaos.

Instead of just standing around outside of houses in the GY? Or waiting to gank someone who goes grey or what have you. Join Order or Chaos.

Do you believe in maintaining a relative amount of civility in society, striking down those who would have no laws or justice? A person of Order?

Or does your ideology see no boundaries pertaining to law and order, seeing no restriction to partake of the sins of the flesh? Murdering, robbing, raping, and bearing down with ferocity against your oppressors? A person of Chaos?


**AND HEY GUYS lets try to discourage Order killing Order and Chaos killing Chaos. It just destroys the sense of community for the sake of an easy gank now and then.**


The battleground lately has been the Britain Graveyard. Choose your side, and work together to vanquish the curs of the opposite ideology!

If you are going to exhort players to make a role-playing-style choice regarding which faction they will join, to add some "substance" to their PvP, how about you get your basic facts straight?

The difference(s) between the idealogies of Order and Chaos in Ultima Online has absolutely nothing to do with any of the things you have mentioned.

SS

meh I'm just gonna let that go.

[Sandro]

Im expecting O/C to pick up soon due to the new patch regarding melee weapons.

[SighelmofWyrmgard]

The difference(s) between the idealogies of Order and Chaos in Ultima Online has absolutely nothing to do with any of the things you have mentioned.

True, but Iced Earth just trying to set an example regardless of the actual lore.

This is pointless:

Gee, which faction do I choose; this faction, which isn't what I say it is, or that faction, which isn't what I say it is ... ?

SS

P.S. in response to my remarks, Iced Earth implies that he has "chosen to stand down" from something. Stand down from what; something else that isn't what he thinks it is?

SS

[Iced Earth]

Dude who gives a damn about any of that stuff?

I had nothing but good intentions, trying to get people to join order or chaos and not just be GY garbage.

Perhaps you can inform me of the wonderful lore behind Ultima's Order and Chaos.
From what Ive always known, Order maintains order. Chaos believes in Chaos. Lord British is for Order, Blackthorne is for chaos. wtf else is important?

You need to get laid BAD, because you are coming off as a raging nerd who hasn't had a taste since you came out the cooter.

[SighelmofWyrmgard]

You demonstrate the depths and sincerity of your "good intentions" with the lame lack of inspiration that characterises your vitriol; ironically, a similar lack of substance is what is responsible for your sudden, viciously defensive posture in the first place.

Why should people want to conform to "your" Order/Chaos "garbage", instead of what you style as "GY garbage"? You admittedly don't care what the real idealogies are; why would you expect anyone else to give one measly lump of greasy bat guano for either what you want, or for whatever lazy, uninformed misinterpretations of other peoples' concepts that you can actually be bothered to articulate?

It was, and remains, tacit that you could be bothered to post your ignorance here, but still can't be bothered to rectify it; [sarcasm] I imagine you must be too busy getting laid [/sarcasm].

SS

[Iced Earth]

I've already asked you to share the REAL ideologies.

But if you don't really know and are just rabblerousing then that's cool, I will continue to explain it in the way that I understand.

OMG I'm still arguing with someone who is obviously a very angry, and sad little man.

Ok Im done with this thread, I win.

And remember everyone, join order or chaos for the REAL ideology! Which is lots and lots of pvp!

[SighelmofWyrmgard]

We can add "winning" (as well as "failing") to the list of things that aren't what you want them to be.

You haven't asked me to explain the real idealogies: your "who gives a damn" remark expressly implies that you have no interest; subsequently you merely state the supposition that I am capable of explaining those idealogies. The fact that this supposition happens to be correct is the closest thing to a "hit" you've been able to thus far achieve.

Consequently, you may reassure yourself that you weren't "still arguing" with me: an argument requires a logical presentation of premises in support of a conclusion; all you've provided is sulky abuse. Apparently, this represents the greatest effort you can be expected to expend, and I imagine that this already has made an impression on more than a few people.

You call me an "angry, sad little man": on accuse s'accuse; you are the only one hissing and spitting and hurling your own feces everywhere, like an ill-tempered, ill-mannered, infant throwing a tantrum.

I am curious as to what extent this mirrors expectations of your PvP playstyle; what, again, precisely, were you attempting to solicit in this thread ... ?

Stay away from mirrors: the images they present seem also to be things that aren't what you want them to be.

SS

[BobDobbs]

Damn, and I thought I was anal retentive about linguistics.

[Mikel123]

As far as I can tell from myUOSA, there are currently:

261 people in Chaos guilds
346 people in Order guilds
4,312 people in unaffiliated guilds