Reporting AFK fishers and sea miners.

[Kander]

Should PoD report afk fishers and miners? If so should we be able to kill them and loot before staff jails them? What do yall think? If we are not able to get our kills and loot why should we work to report and get nothing out of it.

[Joe]

Has anybody ever been reprimanded for afk resource gathering?

I think you should be able to loot and then the guilt parties be dealt with.

[MatronDeWinter]

Seems fair that staff should watch as you kill and loot (if at all possible) before they are wisked away to afk macro jail.

[Atraxi]

Seems fair that staff should watch as you kill and loot (if at all possible) before they are wisked away to afk macro jail.

Isn't the staff's Prime Directive something about not interfering with normal gameplay?

Seems like, by not letting you pk the player, they are interfering with normal gameplay. I mean, if you hadn't reported it, you would have killed him. So, by taking him to jail before you can kill him interferes in how you were going to play.

[BobDobbs]

Should report.

[MatronDeWinter]

If they report and then cannot loot, what incentive do they have to report again when they can just loot? By not reporting and looting, they get loot, but the macroer gets off free. By providing a penalty for reporting you only hurt the server.

[Derrick]

Please report AFK macroers. It's hard to catch them fishing if they are dead; but at least we'll have their name.

[MatronDeWinter]

It's obvious that the right thing to do is to report them. However, I believe the discussion here is whether or not the boat and goods should be immediately confiscated, before the reporter can loot or kill them. This is assuming it is even possible at all, considering looting a no-key locked boat with all items in the correct spot is impossible.

[Kryptonical]

I'm on the fence with this issue...Out of personal gain I'd like to be able to loot/kill/permanently borrow the goods obtain by this afk miner/fisher...

however

looking at this from a shards stand point, whats happening is some one is doing something illegal, and some one else is taking those resources and using them in the world. So the question becomes why ban the afk'er in the first place? because he is afk'ing it? or because he is getting resources afk? if the answer is both then the 2nd person involved trying to obtain the illegal obtain resources should NOT have access to them.

just my 2 cents

[Corbin]

AFK resource gatherers bring mass amounts of resources into the game illegally which has a major effect on the economy. That being said, anyone caught should have their items deleted from the game outright, not be used as booty for someone else to loot.

If you need a reward to report someone for illegal resource gathering, then you're just as big a problem as they are.

[MatronDeWinter]

That's a good point. However, I think we all know that if you have to give up your loot in order to do "the right thing", most people are going to turn a blind eye and kill/loot over report. It's going to happen one way or another, unless you outlaw witnessing afk-resource macroing and not reporting it. Seems like it would be better if the macroer were at least dealt with as well.

[Corbin]

Well, at least I know I do the right thing. Guess I'll have to become the official shard sheriff.

If you AFK Resource Gather, I *WILL* hunt you down and I *WILL* find you!

[Vhyx]

I did report one finally today. After killing them so many times and observing the subsequent behavior it was safe to say they were not in attendance while dark water fishing.


Sad thing is, I think the afk fishers are in the majority when it comes to what I find when I'm out sailing. If not afk, they are fishing with one client while doing something on another.

The only fishers I've noticed that usually respond quickly when attacked are Led Zeppelin and DarkWing. They do the right thing and attend their fishers.

[Atraxi]

Here's how it should be:

You report
Staff comes.
Staff confirms that the person is afk gathering.
Staff asks if you had planned on killing/looting the offender.
You say "yes"
Staff takes any resource on the offender that he might have gotten afk at that location. (if the offender is fishing, for example, he would take all fish, fish steaks, footwear, leather, magic fish, maps, and mibs)
Staff allows you to kill and loot the offender as you would have had they not been there. (except for the resources, of course)
Once you are finished, Staff takes the offender's ghost, boat, and all that's left to wherever.

Simple.

The whistle-blower still gets to kill and loot, but you are not allowing the offender to damage the economy.

[Zeppelin]

Here's how it should be:

You report
Staff comes.
Staff confirms that the person is afk gathering.
Staff asks if you had planned on killing/looting the offender.
You say "yes"
Staff takes any resource on the offender that he might have gotten afk at that location. (if the offender is fishing, for example, he would take all fish, fish steaks, footwear, leather, magic fish, maps, and mibs)
Staff allows you to kill and loot the offender as you would have had they not been there. (except for the resources, of course)
Once you are finished, Staff takes the offender's ghost, boat, and all that's left to wherever.

Simple.

The whistle-blower still gets to kill and loot, but you are not allowing the offender to damage the economy.

I fish soley for the purpose of MiBs. If I were to be jailed that would be OK, for my crime.

But! If you were able to loot my corpse of say 10 MiB's(for example) that would still damage the economy.

Instead of it being in my possession it would be in your possession.

Either way it would cause inflation due to the afk vast amount of time being able to be spent gathering resources.
You macro Fishing 3 hours because of work, watching it. Where as *I* (example) AFK fishing all night, and all day.

P.S. Thank you Vhyx, if you meant responding as in my F5 Key. (cast recall,wait for target, target type rune )