Bet with Corr

[Stonewilled]

Corr or Little Dirty, after a league pvp match, proposed to bet me a small deed with the argument that skill in parry in no way shape or form caused melee fighters to miss you more often.


This is the information on UOSA WIKI:
http://wiki.uosecondage.com/Parrying

It is important to note the sentence at the top of the page: "While Weapon Skills, determine a players chance to hit a target. the parrying ability gives the player been hit a second 'check' to determine whether or not you receive a hit."

And then the paragraph following that elaborates further.


here is the log:
Little Dirty: parry stops dmg but doesnt cause misses
stonewilled: yes it does
stonewilled: lol
Little Dirty: ill bet a small house deed it doesnt
stonewilled: alright
stonewilled: small house deed
Little Dirty: are you sure about that
stonewilled: yes
Little Dirty: i dont want tot ake your money

TJ asks Derrick and then

stonewilled: Whats the verdict
Tj: I would have to say
Tj: Stonewilled
Tj: is correct

Tyvm

[Apoc]

Pay the man

[corr]]

[19:43] <corr> does parry in any way shape or form cause weapons to miss?

[19:46] <marmalade> i dont think it causes weapons to miss
[19:46] <Panthor> it doesnt

[Stonewilled]

OMG here was his first attempt to weasel,
Little Dirty: thaqts not from the t2a wiki
Little Dirty: considering im looking at the page

a minute later...

Little Dirty: oh nm it does say that on top of the wiki
Little Dirty: but its incorrect
stonewilled: lolz!!!
stonewilled: keep weaseling


ohhhhhh.... My gut still hurts...

But now, From this screenshot....

Are you trying to say that it only causes misses when you have a shield on... LOL thats like trying to use swordsmanship without a sword!! Are you seriously trying to use this argument?

[nightshark]

Stonewilled, I don't think you understand.. you are wrong.

A parried hit is not a "miss".

[Stonewilled]

In what way is it not a miss nightshark? Try and gain some skill in reading.. "Outside the chance of parrying a blow with a shield, parry has no affect on hits/misses." In other words: You have to have a shield equipped to have an affect on hits/misses.

Check UOSA Wiki FFS. Is there someone with a brain out there?

[nightshark]

In what way is it not a miss nightshark? Try and gain some skill in reading.. "Outside the chance of parrying a blow with a shield, parry has no affect on hits/misses." In other words: You have to have a shield equipped to have an affect on hits/misses.

Check UOSA Wiki FFS. Is there someone with a brain out there?

Can you please tell me what the advantage of using an invuln kite shield is, over using a store bought buckler...

FORMULA: % Chance of Blocking= Parrying Skill / 2

The resulting damage received is determined by the type of Armor equipped.

This indicates that a parried hit STILL DOES DAMAGE. Which should be obvious to you if you are a warrior anyway. I don't even have a character with parrying and seem to know more about it than full time warriors. Stop using a badly written wiki page as your evidence.

[Panthor the Hated]

he was wtf pwned in irc ns

[IM FKING CRAZY]

When you parry a blow, the shield absorbs damage based on the shields ar. You still get hit, and can still take damage. Parry has never had any affect on hit/miss %'s.

Learn basic uo mechanics and pay up.

GG

[Sandro]

LOL

i love threads like these

more than likely what he is thinking of is AoS parry which does completely block an attack, and special moves as well

[Mikel123]

If you have a high Parry skill and if you have a good shield (or, your opponent is using a weak weapon), Parry can reduce the damage of the hit to 0. But, it's still considered a "hit".

Weapon skills determine hit rate, Parry and Armor modify the damage dealt.

Outside the chance of parrying a blow with a shield, parry has no affect on hits

You are misinterpreting his statement. Parry has an effect on hits - it's effect is to reduce damage. Your bet was about whether it impacts hits and misses. It has no impact on hits and misses.

[kronicfrenzy]

The very definition of parry is to dodge an attack

[marmalade]

it could also mean to block an attack.

fact is parrying does not affect the hit/miss rate of a weapon, only the damage it does. that is what it sounds like the bet was about, and corr won.

[Alex the Artist]

Corr is right.

[Huzke]

If parry simply deflected a blow that would normally have landed then there would be no point in magic shields. I thought it was pretty well known that when a hit is successfully parried that what really happens is the shield's AR is factored into absorbing the damage from the hit and you could still take damage, much like someone hitting a shield strapped to your arm in real life would still hurt some but obviously far less than if you didn't have a shield (obviously).

At least that's how I always understood it and thought was the generally accepted mechanics of the skill.