Tournament 'Seasons' + Hall of Fame

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Yes/No to Tournament Seasons + HoF Idea?

I PvP actively, yes
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36%
I PvP actively, no
5
36%
I PvP actively, don't care
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7%
I don't PvP actively, yes
1
7%
I don't PvP actively, no
1
7%
I don't PvP actively, don't care
1
7%
 
Total votes: 14

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Tournament 'Seasons' + Hall of Fame

Post by Mazer »

This thread is moreso for discussion than anything, I'm curious on peoples' thoughts on this. Try to keep personal grudges out.

I talked to Derrick a bit the other day about implementing 'seasons' for tournaments. He suggested I bring it up here. Basically, a season would last for 3-6 months at which point rankings could get reset and the top 3 for each division (arbitrary) could get a plaque in the "Hall of Fame". Perhaps the 1v1 winner could get a statue of their character on display.

The main reasons behind this:

-mechanics have changed significantly in the last year
-a lot of the current top top ranked duelers haven't played in months
-the population has grown a good deal; tourneys have more contestants

An extension of this would be to have a tournament of champions eventually where winners (or top few) of each season face off.

I realize this is mainly a PvP change, but I think it would compliment the already great scheduled event system this shard has. Actually, the Hall of Fame could be used for other things, maybe to single out people that take a significant role in staff run events. Ie. "Urug'Zar [ORK], Hero of Brittania" or those that do well in CTF/Survivor events and so on.

Derrick brought up the idea of having tourney points decay for people that aren't active which I thought was a pretty valid approach btw.

Anyways, thoughts? Poll included also.

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Re: Tournament 'Seasons' + Hall of Fame

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Actually, that should be Urk, not Ork ;-)

I voted no. My belief is that most of these tournaments, record keeping, etc, should be left to the players to do. When/if you start coding tons of record keeping it removes a piece of the game which I think helped make UO what it was. A bit of player interaction is lost and just dumped down to another first person shooter or what have you.

In the true T2A its true there were no tournaments like we have, but if you look at the history of all shards there was always people who ran tournaments, hosted auctions, kept track of stats/scores, gave out titles, etc.
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Re: Tournament 'Seasons' + Hall of Fame

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Ronk wrote:Actually, that should be Urk, not Ork ;-)
Naw, that's my super-elite-ninja-solo orc.
Ronk wrote:I voted no. My belief is that most of these tournaments, record keeping, etc, should be left to the players to do. When/if you start coding tons of record keeping it removes a piece of the game which I think helped make UO what it was. A bit of player interaction is lost and just dumped down to another first person shooter or what have you.

In the true T2A its true there were no tournaments like we have, but if you look at the history of all shards there was always people who ran tournaments, hosted auctions, kept track of stats/scores, gave out titles, etc.
I suppose that's fair, but given the current set-up, I don't think it's an unrealistic stretch. We have 300 people online, this isn't OSI where you could yell 'Tournament at my tower, entry 10k" at Brit Bank and have dozens show up.

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Well, no, but you can schedule one.

I would just hate to see lots of dev time spent coding up tournaments, rules, stats, and some big system instead of working on server code and/or hosting seer events. If a player can do it, leave it to the player, and a GM can always support a proactive player...blessed houses and such were around in T2A and before.
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hall of fame for all events :D
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This isn't too bad of an idea. All it technicaly would be though is the same thing as the current system but based on seasons instead with an extra bonus perk at the end. If more ideas developed to make it more unique compared to the current system I probably would be more inclined towards accepting it.

I think the current system definitely needs a decay mechanism, but I think there also should be a hall of fame for the overall count. This way current and past leaders will stay in check, and possibly current leaders can eventually supercede a past one in the overall standing. This would also be good incase one of the old players decided to be more active or consider playing again.

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i havnt been ina toruny on a char since august and hes still top 30 in there somwhere, deff shoudlnt still be sittin around in there
hes been a treasure hunter for 3 months
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I'm not too against the idea, but with this implemented then that just adds another "trammy" item which isn't accurate to the game.
Also, I personally wouldn't like to see the rankings as is "forgotten"..
While many aren't as active as they used to be, I don't think their status on the boards should be wiped due to inactivity: They're current places in the rankings should be "mountains" to overcome, not be removed due to a new season.

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Post by chumbucket »

I think this is a fine idea, but I would couple it with a severe reduction in the actual number of shard sponsored tournies. We need more player ran events! Or you guys need it, I guess I should say.

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Just because someone hasn't played in a while doesn't mean that they didn't get the W, or that it should be taken away. Eventually people will come close, or start to surpass them, and hopefully they'll feel pressure to start playing again.

Personally, I think the shard is too based around events as it is. Not that I don't like AND play them, I love them and they're fun. But let's be honest...you don't see 80% of the people out in the field that you do at the tournaments as is. A lot of people log on for the events, and then when they're over they log directly off.

You are already awarded with tournament wins as is also (pts for winning team or more pts for tournament mvp etc.) Basically your trophy collection can speak for itself. A lot of this faust said and I agree with him for the most part.
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im not sayin their win/lose shoudl be erased, just their point total shoudl decrease with time
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Re: Tournament 'Seasons' + Hall of Fame

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I'm against it only because if we want a ranking system, we might as well upgrade the shard to UO:R and bring factions in. This server doesn't need more "Event Specialists" that thrive to be on the top of the rankings and to get a statue of themselves, then log off and never be seen until the next event. It needs more PvP away from events. When I think of T2A, I think of guild wars and raiding towns to find oranges, pks that didn't suck doing dungeon crawls, bone wall getting efielded in and explode pot bomb'd, bucs den fighting constantly since it was the only "town" magery worked in for a large portion of T2A ...

... sorry I got off track, but the point is, I love events because they give me something to do ... but to do anything to enhance the current event system, will only take away from the actually T2A experience even more IMO.
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