Coloured Armour

[Dupre[THG]]

Almost all the sites linked are from beta/pre-t2a. And there's really no logic into making specially hued ores that randomly spawn on vendors for people to buy. It'll also lessen the value of the colored armor from blacksmiths.

Coal armor was an exploit using the coal from a christmas gift, I do believe.

They didn't just take out all that armor because T2A came in with colored ore. Coal armor was not an exploit, you can see it right in the pictures, and it wouldn't lessen the value of GM armor because npc bought armor isn't exceptional.

I'm merely suggesting this, I went to go buy some the other day and it wasn't there. Thought I'd post it up.

What I meant was, all these colored armor pieces were in before t2a. We didn't have a 3 year period before we launched where there were betas and all sorts of bug and flaws and odd things being sold on vendors. So where's the logic in grandfathering in certain elements that were there on OSI because of the long period of time before the era we're trying to emulate?

I'm not denying that it was there, but I certainly don't remember being able to buy hued armor from NPCs during t2a. I'm sure they exsisted during t2a, but they were there before the period.

Edit: "Coal armor" was made when OSI sent out dark colored ore in christmas gifts as coal. There was a way to smelt the coal and turn it into armor (possible to have GM made coal armor). Some of the items you're referring to may have been a coal-like color, but "coal armor" was made via an exploit.

I personally owned two sets of coal armor, on the atlantic shard, yes gm crafted coal armor was worth TONS because of the limit of gm smiths and the difficulty of crafting gm plate armor, and yes it was coal from christmas, also there was a coal colored armor as well as copper type colored armor i remember buying from npc vendors.

[Maleficia]

Coal armor was not an exploit, you can see it right in the pictures, and it wouldn't lessen the value of GM armor because npc bought armor isn't exceptional.

Coal armor was not an exploit, but it certainly was a bug. I think it was xmas 97 (I think) coal was given to players with negative karma. It could be combined with a stack of iron crating coal colored iron ingots. When they were clicked on they were identified as iron ingots. I do not know how long the bug was in before OSI closed it.

I had enough coal ingots to make a GM "archer" suit. I was all over stratics looking for the fabled coal and its history and see it is selling for 45-50k PER INGOT!!!!

[Nevermore]

Coal armor was created using a bug, therefore it was an exploit.

[Orsi]

http://web.archive.org/web/199910021248 ... rplate.htm
Second paragraph underneath the heading, "The Great Search". Dated Oct 2nd (my birthday!) 1999, one year after T2A was released.

In my search,I found that npc merchants that sell armor, blacksmiths, and armorers, sell only colored plate, unless players have sold them player-crafted silver armor. The difficult part is, they sell a random mixture of colors, and the discriminating buyer has to travel all over the land to find the right color on the right merchant.

[Nevermore]

What I meant was, all these colored armor pieces were in before t2a. We didn't have a 3 year period before we launched where there were betas and all sorts of bug and flaws and odd things being sold on vendors. So where's the logic in grandfathering in certain elements that were there on OSI because of the long period of time before the era we're trying to emulate?

I'm not denying that it was there, but I certainly don't remember being able to buy hued armor from NPCs during t2a. I'm sure they exsisted during t2a, but they were there before the period.

Just to clarify a little. Even if the colored armor was in during t2a, it's safe to say that if the period before t2a never happened, they would not be in. Because with t2a came colored ores. SecondAge doesn't have a period before t2a. If you were to look at this server a year from now, and erase the whole year before hand there'd be a lot of missing things. When the server first started, ship models were still blessed. So people who played during the beginning might have blessed ship model. Ship models aren't blessed anymore, and if the period before a year from now, or even now was erased there'd be no blessed ship models. Like I said, SecondAge didn't have that period before t2a for a lot of things to become available.


I mean, Derrick will probably disagree with me, since he's a stickler for accuracy. But, like I said again, it's safe to say that if the period before t2a never happened, there would never be colored plate on vendors.

[Orsi]

I believe your misreading that. It clearly says that npc vendors ONLY sold colored armor. Meaning they never sold any kind of plate that was silver unless it was sold to them. This has nothing to do with what happened before T2A, or the fact that colored iron ore is in the game. These are colors that were only available through purchasing many different pieces of armor around the world.

Repeat, these were not items only accessible because of an era before them. When you went to a vendor and bought a piece of plate armor, it was colored. You could not buy silver plate from any vendor.

[Derrick]

Repeat, these were not items only accessible because of an era before them. When you went to a vendor and bought a piece of plate armor, it was colored. You could not buy silver plate from any vendor.

You reference is from a prior era. Your reference states that there were Only those colors of plate in the game. And it shows all 31 colors of Plate armor in the game, but I don't see Valorite in there. It's clearly pre-T2a. It refers to player made "silver" (meaning normal) armor as being sold in shops only if sold into inventory.

That's not to prove that they weren't available from a vendor during T2A, but it doesn't show they were either. In any case I'll likely add them, it's just a matter of finding the time.

[Nevermore]

Oh. I did misread that. =P

[Dupre[THG]]

should make it more then just plate though >:X

[JimDrizzle]

I didn't read everything so I don't know if that has been posted... enjoy

http://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-arm ... late.shtml

[Derrick]

I didn't read everything so I don't know if that has been posted... enjoy

http://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-arm ... late.shtml

There was a link to a similar page, but it was missing this important piece at the top of the page:

Update: The colored plate system has been replaced with player craftable colored plate.
All plate of the colors shown below has been changed into plain iron plate.

Thanks much for that as it clears up most of the controversy.

[JimDrizzle]

No problemo. Funny thing is, I went to that page on stratics by chance a few days before the 'controversy' started. Worked out well. lol.