Racism / Language

[Corbin]

T2A era, players were jailed and banned for using racist names and comments in game. This should not be permitted here at all.

The same was said for many cuss words, while not as strictly enforced, I know several players who were banned for simply swearing.

[applejack]

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On in-game interaction between players...

The real question here is, does the staff of Second Age's role include Social Services? Most people will answer this question immediately with either a Big Yes, or a Big No, because we have a variety of people here who all view the game very differently, and want the society of the shard to be a particular thing of their preference, which is a very good thing.

The players have shaped the in-game community and society of Second Age, and are therefore entirely responsible for the diversity and richness that it has become. I belive that staff interference in player association takes the responsibility from players to interact freely and build an in-game culture. Putting staff in a role of arbitrating personal interaction takes this accomplishment away from the players to an extent.

Be clear that I'm not saying that people going around throwing racial slurs at everyone they see creates richness and depth, but it's a side effect of the freedom of interaction that exists in Second Age. Much like the real world, if you call someone a name (be it racial, sexual or whatever), most likely higher beings will not appear in a puff of smoke and take away the person that offended you. But also much like the real word, although differing in mechanism, it's possible to remove yourself from the situation, or unlike the real word, even "ignore" that players speech.

I'm not saying that this is the final word on this issue, but just something I thought about. We do not at all appreciate the racism and profanity which seems to come from what really is a minority of players on the shard, however policing this isn't necessarily a natural response to the distain.

There's never a "final word" though (other than the obvious final words, like "no we won't add custom housing", usually players answer those types of threads sufficiently). This shard is a work in progress and new ideas pop up every day.

Just in case people want to know the stance from the boss man. I agree that it is disgusting behavior.

[darkfiend]

It is disgusting behavior, however - I've always leaned toward the opinion that players can turn on the profanity filter for their own client if they are truely offended by stuff such as this.

[marmalade]

Yes, profanity filter. That's probably what it's there for.

[Corbin]

Yes, profanity filter. That's probably what it's there for.

Except that we're talking about era accuracy here, not filters. The bottom line is that a lot of this language would get you banned from UO servers.

[Pied Piper]

Wow. You seriosly playing a game with murder, stealing, and mutilating another persons body then you are crying about language!?

LOL Derrick and his buddies have better things 2 do i'm sure then act like a virtual police force.

Use the ignore feature to ignore that players text or sumin.

I seriously doubt u have virgin eyes.

[KublaiKhan]

just ignore it. more rules never helps, only runs people away to a more 'free' server.

our staff here has better things to do then jail people all day.

i'd rather have people here calling me names and i loot their corpse than nobody here at all.

thanks for your input,

[Malaikat]

Except that we're talking about era accuracy here, not filters. The bottom line is that a lot of this language would get you banned from UO servers.

I played from December 97 and never saw anyone banned for language. Ever. Not even when my friends and I joined the first Japanese shard in 99, and we were pretty tactless at the time.

[Dolos]

How does one ignore posts on the forums? As people seem to post racist comments on the forums all the time.

[Pied Piper]

How does one ignore posts on the forums? As people seem to post racist comments on the forums all the time.

Same way you ignore someone's screaming kid at a restraunt!?

[Corbin]

Same way you ignore someone's screaming kid at a restraunt!?

Walk over and smash them in the face with a hot skillet?

[MatronDeWinter]

How does one ignore posts on the forums? As people seem to post racist comments on the forums all the time.

You can report these posts on the forum, or, if they are in trash talk, you can "not" read that section. The same applies to in-game, you can mute anyone you want.

That being said, so many of you are ignorant, racist, morons, I am amazed that you survived this far in life. Your mom's basement must have a panic room.

[Omnicron]

My rl neighbor was banned for cussing out gms early 1999. He tried suing too. epic

[The Cube]

people like you make me sick