Ya'know

[Azalen]

The amount of player killers compared to the amount of people that are actually playing and aren't just macroing on this server is abysmal. Any graveyard to train up as a noob was overrun with PK's so after taking lumps. I decided to mine and craft so i could just hire paladins and fighters to skill up and so, I do. Hit 80 skill, off to shame. Dead to 4 gankers and dry looted by the time i kill my second elemental. So, figured maybe an abberation that - so many scrubs would pop around a training dungeon level more or less...so I wait go tame a while on another character and come back to shame again about 8 hours later and dead again by the 3rd elemental.

Have yet to go anywhere where it hasn't ended by being PK'd... and this includes most any of the lowbie dungeons. I mean the I can handle dying here and there but the amount of PK's on this shard is unovercomeable. I mean it's very detrimental to any would be player to be honest. Yes, I am also in the guild NEW which seems to be more of a target than of a community effort.

[Akells]

Recall quicker

[Azalen]

Not viable as a training fighter - not a mage like literally all other players sry. At least not until I can get any form of money aside from scratching out enough to at least keep a weapon.

[Kingbuns]

Trammel is not on this shard sorry.
The pks on the server already have to deal with harsh penalties of 8hr short term and 40hr long term or take stat loss.

[mrbojangles]

unovercomeable

[Azalen]

Right because what I said was, give me tram. If I wanted that I'd go get that. I liked this era but I dont ever recall having the population balance around 50:1 ratio of reds vs blues. And having 90%+ people AFK macroing isn't exactly capturing the essence imho.

[Akells]

Get recall.

Recall quicker.

[RoadKill]

Go to less traffic/patrolled areas. You will find there are plenty of amazing training areas that PKs don't even go to.

Don't know any? PM me in IRC and I will show you dozens. Yes, dozens. There isn't anything wrong with the shard, you're just having bad luck I think. And FYI, stop making up statistics you are clearly not right about, you're new here and I can assure you 90% of the population is NOT macroing.

[Azalen]

Get recall.

Recall quicker.

You are a real smart guy huh? I'll do that just hook me up with a spell book and enough gold to buy the regs to train up my magery and then we will see yah? But that doesn't change the fact that the population is so skewed that its more or less a waste of effort to train up without begging for gold or having other people set you up on the new server so you can macro full up. Just seems kind of dumb.

RoadKill, you may be able to show me some spots but I can assure you that the vast majority of the population is macroing. I will hit you up on IRC soon as I get it again I guess...

[Michael Malloy]

I've been training a hybrid macer character in dungeons for the past week or so. I was PKed in Covetous, and attacked once in Wrong. I saw nobody on the first level of Shame, albeit I only spent a little time there (earth elementals really aren't the best, strangely). I've been field PKed once, but again, I was on foot and just screwing around. Not having magery/recall ability and complaining about PKs is like not wearing protection and complaining about getting an STD. Its the risk you take when you get into it. Don't like getting PKed in dungeons? Go to wilderness spots to gain skill.

The PK/blue PK:PvMer ratio here is 1000x better than Divinity (the only other freeshard I've played), where gank crews just wander around destroying people and dry looting them.

Recalling is a necessary part of this game. Waiting 8 hours to return to a dungeon is probably worse than going back in 10 minutes. Most PKs will run through and kill, then go away. Statloss does that to you.

[fooka03]

stop being pessimistic, if you continue to think that way then you're doomed to fail to have fun here and enjoy it for what it is.

i'm still very much a noob here, i've been pk'd three times. once by a red, twice by a 'blue'. I suppose I've been lucky in that I wasn't looted any of those times but that might have more to do with the fact that bone armor isn't in high demand

you just need to work on finding better places to hunt, and trust me, the number of macroers is not 90%.

[RoadKill]

If you use Firefox, you can always get ChatZila if you don't want to deal with another application (that's what I did, since I only use IRC for UO now adays)

And it depends when you're on, but you can find people on all the time in so many locations, I think once you've been here a bit longer you'll see that there are plenty of people, and plenty of good people willing to help out.

and FYI, you can always recall with a scroll, takes around 20 magery to do it "100% of the time" (Not exactly sure, but training to 20 magery would cost 200gp and is totally worth putting on ANY character that plans on going anywhere, especially a dungeon) Heck, you can even make a 50 magery, 50 scribe character and he'd be good enough to pump out recall scrolls constantly.

[Michael Malloy]

that might have more to do with the fact that bone armor isn't in high demand

This is also a very good tip. There's a reason "newbies" wear bone armor. Its free, its plentiful, and its decent enough. Bandages can be gotten for free through sheep and cotton fields. The only thing you really need to pay for is the 30gp for a vendor weapon and maybe some extra for a shield. If you kill enough skeletons to get a full set of bone armor, you'll have that money. If you need extra money, crafting can easily pay for magery training/minimal reagents needed to recall.

[Azalen]

I've been training a hybrid macer character in dungeons for the past week or so. I was PKed in Covetous, and attacked once in Wrong. I saw nobody on the first level of Shame, albeit I only spent a little time there (earth elementals really aren't the best, strangely). I've been field PKed once, but again, I was on foot and just screwing around. Not having magery/recall ability and complaining about PKs is like not wearing protection and complaining about getting an STD. Its the risk you take when you get into it. Don't like getting PKed in dungeons? Go to wilderness spots to gain skill.

The PK/blue PK:PvMer ratio here is 1000x better than Divinity (the only other freeshard I've played), where gank crews just wander around destroying people and dry looting them.

Recalling is a necessary part of this game. Waiting 8 hours to return to a dungeon is probably worse than going back in 10 minutes. Most PKs will run through and kill, then go away. Statloss does that to you.

Thanks for the reply here but I am not even just going after skills from the elementals, I was trying to down them for the money so I could fund a mage. I havent been able to get a spellbook yet... and I've been dry looted about 20x and this includes terrathan keep, covetous, deceit 3x, shame.... fields...

[Michael Malloy]

Should've also noted that I am in the same boat as you, looking to fund a mage. I've saved up 14k from scratch so far, without crafting or anything. The key is knowing when its time to go. If you have zero money in your bank, and you're hunting and make 1000 gold... time to go back to the bank. Start slow and build a nest egg. Once you're on your feet you can start taking the risks.

The risk and reward of dungeon crawling when its just blues and monsters is far less fun than when the risk of getting your ass blown up is right around the corner.