Sometimes you need to murder

[randale]

It seems you do. There are lots of things which will not turn a blue character red or grey, but are definitely annoying and interfere with you, like looting monster you've killed, dispelling your gates, etc. Was this the reason that perhaps murder counts are temporary? Or one of them at least, that an otherwise good character can get away with it now and then when he needs to.

I know most short term and long term counts are temporary, but is there a point where you've committed too many and will be red permanently- forever, that is- as long as your character exists on the server?

[mxmx23]

Short answer: yes there is perma red
Long answer: viewtopic.php?p=18188

[randale]

Of course there is a solution if you don't want your blue to murder create a red alt for that purpose. I'm thinking a nice deadly, or 5th level poisoned weapon would work well.

[archaicsubrosa77]

Its actually quite the chore to become perma red, and if someone needs it...go ahead and attack them.
Only those who want to go perma end up perma red...unless you play frequently and are looking to kill and absolve your counts to not suffer statloss countless times without murdering on a regular basis to keep you in the red. It is very rare to find any PK perma.

[the bazookas]

Yes, as long as you don't go red then blue then red then blue then red then blue then red, you will not be permanently red.

btw, the best poison you can get on a weapon is Deadly poison. The only way for a player to initiate 5th level poison is a tinker trap (which actually a player with 50 tinkering can create using lesser poison ).