Crab Juice quitting UOSA & unethical tips for making money

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Crab Juice quitting UOSA & unethical tips for making money

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I decided to quit this shard and go to another shard that i'm sure most people are aware of. I realized that the staff, economy, and mostly all aspects of this shard cannot be compared to. However, I play UO for PvP. I understand this shard is going for era accuracy, which is fine but is just not for me. I believe the OSI 99 pvp was great for the time given the circumstances. Everyone had 300 mhz computers, dial up connections, and UO Assist. Given that it is 2009 and those factors have changed I feel that the pvp here is way too slow and luck based. It may be accurate, but it doesn't mean it's good in my eyes. Derrick has been the best staff member I have ever dealt with on a player ran shard, I am surprised at how well he does, it seems as if he is getting paid to do what he does.

I may rarely hop on for a tournament or something, but you probably won't see me on here that often. It's been a pleasure.

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In case anyone was curious I will fill people in on my ways of making money on here. I will reveal everything I've done to make money besides the one tactic that made me the most money, I'll keep that a secret.

Note: I only have three mage thieves and two tank mages. I've never had a resource character or farmer. And I've easily made over 6 million within 4 or 5 months playing on here.

I occassionally would run around with a bunch of unmarked runes and look for IDOCs, corner looting houses, locked door only security houses, and table security unlocked houses.


IDOCs are fairly easy to make money with, just have an excel spreadsheet and record the time, date, and status of the particular house. Houses are Greatly for 1 week and IDOC for 36 hours. So if you have a chart you can calculate the fall times of these pretty easily as long as you check on the house frequently (remember to calculate the 10 mins of server reboot time every day).


Corner looting houses are situations where someone has security like this:
-OOOOOOT
O X

O's are tables, T is a trash barrel, - is an open tile(no table) and X is you as a ghost. Make a macro to walk north with your ghost, then once you get passed the security with ghost move the ghost over to:
XOOOOOOT
O

Then get your other char and res your ghost and loot.


Locked door houses - you should have a stealth thief have him hidden where the door will swing open to so the owner of the house won't walk over your tile and notice you and also so you don't have a pathway block of the door. Stealth in and preferrably wait till they are gone and gate your chars in to loot.

Table security - stealth your char to where they moved the table and are going to replace the table after they pass through. They will be able to place the table on the tile you are hidden in without knowing. This way they can't walk over you or anything yet you can still move ahead one tile to get in the loot area.



Trade window stealing - obviously bring alt char to stealth near where you are doing a trade. Make a macro for Use Skill Stealing > Wait For Target > Absolute Target. Have your main char that is "buying" the item re-target the "Absolute Target" to whatever the item is and then have a hot key on your thief to run that macro right after you close the trade screen with main char. You can press alt + tab if you have windows to switch between the two most recent windows. Also, you can make a mage/tamer/thief and get a lizard or something and build up your fame some so you can just do 1on1 trade window stealing. Lastly, you can make a lookalike character, for example a character named Crab Juice with same outfit, hair dyes, etc etc so people think you are the common tank mage they see around.


There are a lot more things I did but I don't necessarily feel like typing them all out. I may add more later.

As for your ethical players, use this as a guide to protect yourself :D
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haha i think i caught u tryin to break into my 2 story a few weeks ago lol. unless someone else was using the same tactic. cant remember the chars name.

anyways sorry to see u go man.

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Lol yeah must of been someone else. I haven't done any scamming or stealing in the last month or so. I've been legit so I could sell my stuff for gold.

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O's are tables, T is a trash barrel and X is you as a ghost. Make a macro to walk north with your ghost, then once you get passed the security with ghost move the ghost over to:
XOOOOOOT
O
I tried that in my own place and I don't see how the ghost can move to that position once it's passed the security.
Can you clarify?


Locked door houses & Table security : Aren't people using Detecting Hidden then when entering their house?
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This works because the ghost won't be detected. You then come back when the home owner isn't around and res yourself.

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crabjuice wrote:Lol yeah must of been someone else. I haven't done any scamming or stealing in the last month or so. I've been legit so I could sell my stuff for gold.
So Lydia camping the skara brae carp shop to steal house deeds the last week hasn't been you? ... right
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Batlin wrote:
O's are tables, T is a trash barrel and X is you as a ghost. Make a macro to walk north with your ghost, then once you get passed the security with ghost move the ghost over to:
XOOOOOOT
O
I tried that in my own place and I don't see how the ghost can move to that position once it's passed the security.
Can you clarify?


Locked door houses & Table security : Aren't people using Detecting Hidden then when entering their house?
Your client will be a little bugged (running/walking may seem choppy and such) from doing the walk north macro, however you should still be able to eventually get your ghost into that tile to be ressed.

Some people do use Detect, but a lot still don't on every visit to their house.

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I tried this on my house.. but it said I was to far from the ghost i had my other character right up against the outside of the house.. how does this work?

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To make a proper movement macro in razor, have it do..


Walk North
Resync

Loop


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so my ghost needs to be walking north in the north corner of the house for me to rez it?

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i guess i'm just not getting how you do the actual corner rez

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It's when your inside the house, and there are tables that are only touching diagonally. You still have to be one tile from the ghost to res them, diagonally.

I wanted to clear up that there is no way to res someone through the wall of a house.

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ok I was wondering cause someone attacked me through the wall of my house today.. I have no idea how so I'm trying to figure all this out and what security i need to worry about

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That was likely an area of effect spell, they can damage you three tiles away. The center of a small house is safe from this.

Earthquake can reach further but it should not be able kill you under normal circumstances.

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awesome thanks for the help! I'll have to remember that from now on!

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