Spears and Pitchforks

[Trendkill]

Hey guys im just curious about the 1 tile hit for spears and pitchforks. I might be crazy but I think that they should hit from 2 tiles away. I mean isnt that kinda the point of a spear? I havent played ultima in a long while. Like 4 years actually. But every other free shard ive played on had this implemented. And i know that this shard is supposed to be pure osi. But im pretty posative that on old zulu. zulu 2. and novus opiate. they both had spears and forks hit 2 tiles away. and im pretty sure they claimed to be pure osi. it was in like 99-02 when i played on those shards. I guess im biased since i started with fencing thinking that this was the case. Just curious as to what everyone else thinks about it. Call me crazy if you will. I just think they should hit from 2 tiles away. Take the amount of damage they do down if necessary, i just thought that was the point of a spear is all. So lets hear what you all have to say.

[RoadKill]

All melee weapons have always had a 1 tile radius. The reason people use spears, halberds and other polearms, is because they have higher damage

[Trendkill]

yeah i get it. i get why it is the way it is here. Im just saying don't you think that the point of a spear is to hit from farther away? Like if you had to hit something farther away than you could reach you would prolly use something that has a long stick attached right. Makes sense to me. I get that hallys do more damage because they are huge, but a spear shouldnt do damage like a hally or a bard. and i also get why most fo you wouldnt want it to be that way, because you would all get owned by dexxers. All i wanna know is if im the only one who thinks they should hit from 2 tiles away or not? very simple question roadkill. I def dont expect to get it changed. Just wanna know what everyone thinks.

[Senses]

I think they should hit from 10 tiles away. But it doesn't matter what I *think.* It matters what was actually going on in the era. So if you think something was a certain way, back it up with proof, then you can expect a change. Otherwise its just you fantasizing.

[Michael Malloy]

I think magic should kill people in one hit. Its *magic*, after all.


So, no.

[Trendkill]

Do only reatards read posts? Like i said I dont expect to get anything changed. All i said was, does anyone else think it makes sense for them to hit from 2 tiles away? Or cant you read very well? Because to me it makes 0 sense for a spear to do the same damage as a hally or bard which have huge blades. I know not everything makes sense on ultima. like i said, i get it. Also the magic system does make sense since its skill based. And magic can kill someone in 1 hit if you have good magery and the person your hitting has little resist. A weapon hitting from 2 tiles away has nothing to do with your skills.

[Faust]

All "polearm" weapons have always been 1 tile radius since UO was released in 1997. During the beta stages they did in fact have a longer reach than 1 tile though. This was removed during the beta testing though. There were later suggestions made by players to make them have a larger radius but it was never added. Here are some UOHOC logs discussing this issue with the developers of the game during different time periods.

January 14, 1999
Glamdring - *Eldoran* DD, is it possible to make polearms to be able to strike a space away (giving them a 2 space range), and then have all ranged weapons do half damage if melee'd at close range?
Faceless - I don't want to go overboard on making additions to combat yet, so polearms probably won't happen for a while
Faceless - I would like to see archery less effective at one tile, interrupts, breaking bows, etc...but probaly not too soon

Reference: http://uohoc.stratics.com/logs/1999-01-14-pub.shtml

February 11, 1999
Glamdring - *XenaDragon* Will Halberds, bardiches and staffs ever become real polearms? Meaning: have a longer reach.
DesignerD - They used to have a longer reach, actually, early in the beta, I don't remember why it was changed. I'll investigate.

Reference: http://uohoc.stratics.com/logs/1999-02-11-pub.shtml

September 9, 1999
Glamdring - *Iolo* Will polearms and the sort ever be able to reach further than one tile in combat? I believe they were two tiles at one time.. want to come back to that?
SunSword - No plans for this at the moment.

Reference: http://uohoc.stratics.com/logs/1999-09-09-pub.shtml

[Trendkill]

Well what do you know. some actual information rather than being flamed for a thought. I really appreciate this post. Very interesting too actually. I also like the part about archery being less effective at 1 tile. makes a lot of sense. Once again thanks for some actual input. Im not crazy.

[Derrick]

Aye, neat. Thanks.