bring em back

[Teriyl]

I appreciate the call to the players to create and operate events, but let me tell you it's incredibly costly. I spent about 2 million over the donations that came in for an event I ran. I know Vintrex has spent 10 times that over the course of his events. That's the rub too...it's always the same people stepping up to run shit, and it's never one of the rich folks that can afford to do it consistently.

I will say that the GM staff are more than willing and helpful to assist with player run events (make trophies, sticky forum threads, advertise in social media, etc.) but we're still footing the bill. I'd love to run another event, I thought the 1st one was a good time. I won't run an event with shit prizes and things though because no one will be very interested and I just can't afford to put another one together.

And while I usually don't support Menk on this matter, he did bring up a good point....."events were a part of the server for 4 years before they were taken away" that's a very long time to have something be a part of the server to just scrap it for whatever reason.

[irNathaniel]

"Events where removed to improve on ERA Accuracy" - Get it - Kind of think its that simple to be honest, get that they where removed but its the whole point of UO Second Age.

Dont like, Dont play, and Dont Bitch - Admins have made it clear.

[Bloom]

"Events where removed to improve on ERA Accuracy" - Get it - Kind of think its that simple to be honest, get that they where removed but its the whole point of UO Second Age.

Dont like, Dont play, and Dont Bitch - Admins have made it clear.

Original intent of era accuracy was mechanical. Read through the early posts in the Era Accuracy forum. I can't say for certain what Derrick's thoughts were, but it seems clear. There is no question of whether events were era accurate or not early in that Forum. I assume this was because the point was to have fun, make fun, and enjoy UO within the mechanical boundaries of the era.

[nubnub]

I agree 100%.... bring back automated events (then remove them) so I can understand what all of these adults are crying about. Seriously, I want to cry too but I cannot relate... I demand to experience this horrible tragedy too - DON'T DENY MY RIGHT TO CRY!!!

When I run around this world all I see are 'automated events'... Automated rare collecting, automated reg buying, automated skill building, automated everything... But I agree, we need more automation thus AUTOMATED EVENTS!!!

[Menkaure]

"Events where removed to improve on ERA Accuracy" - Get it - Kind of think its that simple to be honest, get that they where removed but its the whole point of UO Second Age.

Dont like, Dont play, and Dont Bitch - Admins have made it clear.

First of all, who are you? Are you new to the server and just posting? Or are you a vet whos hiding under an alternate name? If your a vet, fine so be it, your entitled to your opinion. If your new to the server then you cant really form much of a judgement only being here a few weeks.

With that being said, even Anarcho said in an earlier post, probably the most essential reason events were removed is because a few people were getting their stat loss characters resd, stat loss free, by entering events, it had nothing to originally do with era accuracy.
Plus, if we want to talk about era accuracy in everything we do, why is there neon sandals? Why is there ice white cloth? Why is there glacial staves and crap? Why? Because they were grandfathered in, right? Same with silver. There was no silver back then, but theres still silver today. Not to mention, we still get trophies for Xmas, and even some player run events, so thats not era accurate, better remove it!! Why couldnt events be grandfathered in? Dont give me the era accuracy bullsh*t if we still get trophies, theres still a silver system, and more importantly, so much other stuff isnt era accurate.
You disagree, thats fine, but your argument of era accuracy is bullsh*t since theres plenty of other things that arent era accurate. If you wanna say it took people away from playing the game and only logging in for events, then fine, so be it. But guess what? Log in to irc once, youll see 600 people, and a lot of names you havent seen in game forever. I guarantee you if events were back, youd see those names AT LEAST log in for the event, which, right now is BETTER THAN NO ONE LOGGING IN AT ALL.
Edit:
By the way. The best times I had playing this game were the 1 hour BEFORE an event was going to start, and the 1 hour AFTER the event was OVER. People actually played and there were people everywhere having fun and fighting. Even though they logged in for an event, they stayed for some fun after and before. Food for thought.

[Taboo]

... Because events made playing this server much more fun and interesting.

I mean are you f*cking museum historians or GAME masters? Stop being so literal. Its a game. The unique t2a rule sets still apply to events. After all, I dont see any poisons to block heals or stunning/crushing blows being done.

Anyone who was around during events knows how epic in numbers of players the battles were and how interesting the individual types of games are.

These "events" now are practically nothing in comparison to the old automated ones.

Who even cares about silver anymore? All the vets are rich now and have everything they want.
They dont need bland 1902 sandles and its not like you are offering neon masks.
(which is basically what everyone actually wants from a reward system)

Please for the love of god someone keep it real somewhere.

[Teriyl]

^ good post. I would agree with being firm on the t2a mechanics, but you guys have to allow for content, only so much you can do before it gets stale....

[Mr.CandyMan]

Thanks, but your answers "shit question" are not accepted. If you can't even be bothered to express your reasons for why you want events, I don't see how anyone can take your need seriously. I'd even go as far as saying you avoided the most important questions.

I was just pointing out that they are shitty questions. Reword them and they will be accepted. If you can't be bothered to ask unbiased, unloaded questions, I don't see how I can give serious answers. I'm surprised to see your name in red when you so lack the professionalism it deserves. Stop being a passive aggressive wanker and take a serious look at where UOSA is now and what small things you could do to improve it without destroying your shrine of era accuracy.

I'll shut up now

I'm gonna have to agree with Freight on this one. The questions answered with "shit question" are questions you made to get a specific answer.

The problem I have with no automated events is as follows. When it released people could get silver in order the get rares. Now that it is gone, how do you get silver consistently? Anyone that was able to get silver and buy rares because of the automated events is now uber rich. If you are relatively new to the server, you have almost no shot at getting this pixel crack unless you pay millions.

IMHO: If automated events are permanently gone, create another way to get the rares vets have.

[Menkaure]

I still wish I could get an explanation on if its era accuracy or if its because they feel it takes away from the actual playing of the game itself. If its era accuracy then remove silver and rewards, and/or stop handing silver/trophies out. If its taking away from actual game play, for as bad as the pop is right now, at least it would make people log in. We have ACTIVE gms right now, this would be the perfect time...

[Budner]

"Events where removed to improve on ERA Accuracy" - Get it - Kind of think its that simple to be honest, get that they where removed but its the whole point of UO Second Age.

Dont like, Dont play, and Dont Bitch - Admins have made it clear.

First of all, who are you? Are you new to the server and just posting? Or are you a vet whos hiding under an alternate name? If your a vet, fine so be it, your entitled to your opinion. If your new to the server then you cant really form much of a judgement only being here a few weeks.

With that being said, even Anarcho said in an earlier post, probably the most essential reason events were removed is because a few people were getting their stat loss characters resd, stat loss free, by entering events, it had nothing to originally do with era accuracy.
Plus, if we want to talk about era accuracy in everything we do, why is there neon sandals? Why is there ice white cloth? Why is there glacial staves and crap? Why? Because they were grandfathered in, right? Same with silver. There was no silver back then, but theres still silver today. Not to mention, we still get trophies for Xmas, and even some player run events, so thats not era accurate, better remove it!! Why couldnt events be grandfathered in? Dont give me the era accuracy bullsh*t if we still get trophies, theres still a silver system, and more importantly, so much other stuff isnt era accurate.
You disagree, thats fine, but your argument of era accuracy is bullsh*t since theres plenty of other things that arent era accurate. If you wanna say it took people away from playing the game and only logging in for events, then fine, so be it. But guess what? Log in to irc once, youll see 600 people, and a lot of names you havent seen in game forever. I guarantee you if events were back, youd see those names AT LEAST log in for the event, which, right now is BETTER THAN NO ONE LOGGING IN AT ALL.
Edit:
By the way. The best times I had playing this game were the 1 hour BEFORE an event was going to start, and the 1 hour AFTER the event was OVER. People actually played and there were people everywhere having fun and fighting. Even though they logged in for an event, they stayed for some fun after and before. Food for thought.

^THIS. The inconsistency about era accuracy is maddening. Jewel encrusted liches, but no events. Silver, but no events. Neon crap, but no events. 3 accounts with 15 houses, but no events. Exceptions to era accuracy ad nauseum.

[Budner]

Allow me to summarize:

Events, although not a panacea, would boost population to some extent.
Events would not HARM this shard in any way I can perceive.
Events, even if considered not era accurate, simply join a HOST of non-era accurate stuff that already exists here.

So what is the reason not to have events? If it's admin time/expense, fine. If it's not that, I just can't understand the reason for not having events. Sorry. I've read this thread, and a hundred others related to events and era accuracy, and it boils down to: NO REAL REASON TO NOT HAVE EVENTS.

Jeebus. Everybody please just f'ing absorb that fact.

Peace be with you all.

[Menkaure]

Budner, that was probably the best short explanation on the subject Ive seen. Thank you for that.

[Ohm]

I didnt read past page 1.

I want those auto pvp events back (ctf, 1v1, dbl domination, etc) because they were professionally done, they were happening everyday or multiple times a day, they gave out cool trophies (I dont really care about a prize, but im sure some people do)

But most important of all.. the results were automatically recorded

[Ohm]

The inconsistency about era accuracy is maddening. Jewel encrusted liches, but no events. Silver, but no events. Neon crap, but no events. 3 accounts with 15 houses, but no events. Exceptions to era accuracy ad nauseum.

Allow me to summarize:

Events, although not a panacea, would boost population to some extent.
Events would not HARM this shard in any way I can perceive.
Events, even if considered not era accurate, simply join a HOST of non-era accurate stuff that already exists here.

So what is the reason not to have events? If it's admin time/expense, fine. If it's not that, I just can't understand the reason for not having events. Sorry. I've read this thread, and a hundred others related to events and era accuracy, and it boils down to: NO REAL REASON TO NOT HAVE EVENTS.

Jeebus. Everybody please just f'ing absorb that fact.

Peace be with you all.

^

[Mr.CandyMan]

NO REAL REASON TO NOT HAVE EVENTS.

^ +1