Lvl 5 Treasure map monster spawn

[Dark_Radiance]

I never played UO back in the T2a days, so i have a simple question to ask people who did tmaps back in the day:
Did Balrons spawn in lvl5 tmaps? As of right now they don't and I'm just curious if this is correct or not.

[Jaster]

i thought they did ... but mighta been uo:r

[Pac]

I thought they did.

[Derrick]

At the bottom of this page you'll find the creatures that spawn from each chest:
http://web.archive.org/web/199910040452 ... easure.htm

[Shea]

Derrick,

That link shows that Detect Hidden is needed for lvl 5 chests and that you only need 95% lockpick. That doesn't hold true on this shard does it?

[Jaster]

The following is an indication of the types of creatures you should expect to spawn when you open the chest, and when remove items from it*:

* Level One: Mongbats, Orcs, Ratmen, Headless, Skeletons, Zombies (0-6 total)
* Level Two: Orc Mages, Orc Lords, Gargoyles, Gazers, Hellhounds, Earth Elementals (4-10 total)
* Level Three: Liches, Orc Lords, Ogre Lords, Dread Spiders, Air Elementals, Water Elementals, Fire Elementals (5-10 total)
* Level Four: Dread Spiders, Headlesses, Liches, Lich Lords, Daemons, Elder Gazers, Ogre Lords, Orc Mages (5-10 total)


* Level Five: Balrons, Lich Lords, Daemons, Elder Gazers, Poison Elementals, Blood Elementals (10-15 total)

[Dark_Radiance]

Thanx for the link derrick, I see that it does list balrons as part of the spawn for lvl5's. So does this mean somthing is broken for the lvl5 tmap spawn? As I already stated I've started doing them, 6 in total, and balrons havn't been spawning.

Side question for lvl4 spawn:
Level Four: Dread Spiders, Headlesses, Liches, Lich Lords, Daemons, Elder Gazers, Ogre Lords, Orc Mages (5-10 total)
What's a headlesses? It already had Headless listed for lvl1 tmap spawns. Seems to be a typo of somekind, again just curious.

[Michael Malloy]

Seems a bit off to me. Orc Mages and headless ones on a level 4? I can't ever remember that happening.

One thing that is NOT correct here for sure, even though its super minor, is that level 1 maps are not supposed to have an initial spawn on monsters; only when you move items in the chest are they supposed to spawn.

[RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR]

I think I've been getting lvl 4 tmaps on Ice Fiends is that right?

[Derrick]

That list is known to be way less than accurate, and Balrons were removed for that reason a long long time ago on UOSA. I've added Balrons and Dread Spiders (which I personally remember) to 5's for tomorrow.

[RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR]

Derrick, can you tell me what the current treasure maps are based off of, if it isn't this stratics page?

Are the gold and items atleast correct?

[Michael Malloy]

More importantly, could I be doing level 5 maps right now without GM lockpick? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Vlastslav]

Im alittle confused, exactly what mobs currently drop Level 5 Tmaps? Also should LLs, Elders, Balrons, and certainly the AW be droping them?

[Sir Dan]

Detect Hidden skill is not needed... is it?!?

[Derrick]

It is not. Most of the info on lockpicking and detect hidden is unsubstanciated as far as I've seen.