Real Skill Vs. Base Skill

[McGee]

Hey everyone,

I've been wondering this forever... What is the difference between a base skill and the real skill value? I understand it is effected by stats, but I was a bit more curious to a situational thing such as:

If I have a base skill of 77 healing / 78 anat, but that gives me a modified skill of 80+ on each, will that count towards the requirement to res someone? Will it be possible? Or does the BASE need to be at 80+/80+?

Thanks for any info.

[Kael]

Everything you do in game is based off of your shown skill and not your real skill. So if your stats are giving healing and anatomy a bonus to take them to 80+, then yes you can res someone. The only thing your real skill tells you is how much more you really have to go until you GM that skill.


Note: In your post you are calling them "base" and "real" skill, that is the same thing. Your skills without the stat bonus is your "real" skill, and your skills with the stat bonus is your "shown" skill. It's easy enough to figure out in game as you're turning on the option called "Show Real" to see your skills without the bonus.

[Hicha]

The skill system works off of a graded curve so that it makes it easier to successfully use skills (and gain skill) at lower levels, and slowly tops off at the higher skill levels.

Which is why you can have 20 mining skill (base) and 0 mining (real), then later on have 99 (base) and 98 (real.)

[Arcott Ramathorn]

You guys sure about this? I was told numerous times that you can tame high end monsters with 98 skill(WW's. dragons, drakes and Nightmares) but i just hit 98.1 last night and it just says i seem to anger the beast(on a drake) My unadjusted skill is like 97.7. So..is the info on taming requirements for these creatures wrong? Or is the info on unadjusted skill wrong?

[Hoots]

You guys sure about this? I was told numerous times that you can tame high end monsters with 98 skill(WW's. dragons, drakes and Nightmares) but i just hit 98.1 last night and it just says i seem to anger the beast(on a drake) My unadjusted skill is like 97.7. So..is the info on taming requirements for these creatures wrong? Or is the info on unadjusted skill wrong?

get used to that....

At gm taming i anger a mare a solid 20-50 times before each taming attempt is even started. Then you are looking at anywhere from 5-20 attempts (average) to actually tame it. Mares seem to take me about 10-20 mins per tame. (100 taming 100 lore)

For the angered message, just set up a razor (use skill taming, last target) macro and let it burn until you see the blue txt on your screen.

good luck.

[Arcott Ramathorn]

You gotta be kidden me...i thought that messege indicated that i was not able to tame the creature. I found a nightmare in town the other day, i figured it was someones at some time so i tried to retame it..said i seem to anger it (i mighta had 96 something skill at the time)..so i called the guards and had it whacked. I would most definately spent hours tryin to tame it if i thought i had a chance. Thanks hoots, at least i know its attempting to tame when that pops up. This is, obviously, the first tamer i have ever made. Will i get gains off of angering the beast attempts?

[platypus]

No you won't get gains off "you seem to anger the beast". All this message does is slow down the taming process so that you can't tame like 100 dragons/high end pets per hour. I think its about a 10% chance to BEGIN taming the creature on each attempt, the other 90% of the time you will get this message. Make a macro that loops: Useskill Taming, last target, if "You begin to tame..", pause 20 seconds, else repeat. Then whenever you find a creature that gives this message, hit this macro. Saves alot of button pressing, esp. when you need to heal/cure alot (when taming mares or wyrms)