Should there be another CUB?

[Stranger]

All this discusion is non-sense. I have been here 4 months I have hair dye on two characters. Hair dye on osi went for more than it did here on most large shards. Running multiple CUB's is stupid and it isnt era accurate. Sure alot of people on OSI would have loved multiples, but it was a reward for players who had been with the game and it created a good economy. I did not reap the benefits of this one, but I did on OSI. When I first started here I was hoping they would having another, but that was selfish and stupid. If you want the items from CUB, buy some trophies and get them or win some just as everyone else has.

Derrick needs to announce that there will never been another so people will throw away useless things.

Its not just about getting the items from CUB its about the fun from having the event. A break from the menotomy of the every day repetivness you get from having a shard that is set unchanging in a specific era. You keep players playing by giving them somthing new to do to break up the bordom. And CUB is somthing thats somewhat new, extreamly fun and still era accurate. If people are worried about items being devalued then Derrick could give away different (Era accurate) items at each CUB. Thats not different then being able to buy items from trophies.

[Kraarug]

Now I know there was only one CUB on OSI.

Yeah but we're more like a Groundhog Day of T2A. So theoretically, we should have CUB every few months, like Bill Murray keeps waking up to the exact same thing every day.

It should be every year at the same time.

Like I've said before, "Party like it's 1999".

[Kraarug]

There is 2.8 million items on the shard, it's time to clean it up.

Those that argue against an annual event seem to be those that have benefitted from last years event and want to keep the value of their rewards high.

There is no technical or era accurate reason why CUB should not be an annual event.

[Hoots]

Its not just about getting the items from CUB its about the fun from having the event. A break from the menotomy of the every day repetivness you get from having a shard that is set unchanging in a specific era. You keep players playing by giving them somthing new to do to break up the bordom. And CUB is somthing thats somewhat new, extreamly fun and still era accurate. If people are worried about items being devalued then Derrick could give away different (Era accurate) items at each CUB. Thats not different then being able to buy items from trophies.

The CUB wasnt "fun". It started with people NPC buying trying to find loopholes for quick tickets (magic wiz hats was the big one before derrick fixed it). Then, there was a hide exploit that derrick also fixed. After the loopholes were fixed CUB consisted of people farming npcs for 999 boards/hides and then afk crafting day and night. PvP was dead. PvM was dead and so was PKing. All the big time pvpers and reds had their tailors and crafter logged in 24-7 bc they all were trying for CBDs.

So ill just agree to disagree with you here.

[Stranger]

I wasnt here for it, but two of my friends said it was the most fun they've had on this shard.

[Hoots]

There is 2.8 million items on the shard, it's time to clean it up.

Those that argue against an annual event seem to be those that have benefitted from last years event and want to keep the value of their rewards high.

There is no technical or era accurate reason why CUB should not be an annual event.

Era accurate was only 1 CUB. Era accurate was the second CUB ended, people hoarded to wait for the next CUB. ERA accurate is those people never getting it and basically wasting years of hoarding sh1t.

I have benefited from it, but as many people said items are available with points... so in theory they are available to all.

Rares/Holiday gifts/Cub/Vet rewards/etc... no one is entiltled to any of them. If you miss the boat, you missed it... If you didnt and you banked the items you see 1000% + returns... that is the UO i remember...

[Hoots]

I wasnt here for it, but two of my friends said it was the most fun they've had on this shard.

have them explain how. Honestly, the biggest conflicts were at the hide dealers where someone would buy 999 and cast gate and other people would try to grab the stack when it hit the ground.

[Stranger]

Not everyone plays UO for a "Conflict". Weather it be from stealing somthing from someone or pking them. Myself as well as my friends collect things, rares, gold, we are mainly farmers who do NOT want conflict. So somthing that gives us a chance to strive at somthing and outwork other people to reap big rewards is somthing we find fun. While I understand and enjoy the fact that there are PK's and risks in the game, it would be a nice change of pace to be able to get somthing in this game without having to die over and over for it. And to be able to participate in an event without being someone who pvps. There are to few events that do not involve pvp. Us farmers and crafters are out there .

[Hemperor]

There is 2.8 million items on the shard, it's time to clean it up.

Those that argue against an annual event seem to be those that have benefitted from last years event and want to keep the value of their rewards high.

There is no technical or era accurate reason why CUB should not be an annual event.

Items continued to grow at the same rate during the last CUB, anyone who believes the system reduces the amount of items is foolish.

[Valyr]

Few points:

1. Cub happened only once on osi. True. But t2a didnt last forever on osi either. More things were introduced to keep it cool and invigorate the shard/economy/etc. Example given: vet rewards. What cub became.

2. If the practical reason behind this, other than just the coolness, is to decrease item count on the server and your worried about people crafting 24/7 than have derrick take out craftable items. Im sure for the most part people hoarde magic items from hunting,tmapping etc. THere not very likely to have hoards of npc pants. Though honestly if you have to cry because omg people took a few days off from pvp, or all the blues werent out and about for you to pick on for a couple days.... Ummm. Whaaa.

3. Every few months I think is way too often. ONce a year as a special anniversary event would be cool I think. Keep it special and rare. Something that those that stay with the server for a whole year look forward to the entire year. I know Im looking forward to one.

Anyways. I casted my vote for yes ofcourse. Ive already started saving items for it. Actually I was saving before I even knew about it. And will continue to do so. If one happens than cool. If not Ill keep saving till I have 50k or so magic items then Ill npc them all and make a mill or two. Shouldnt take too long seeing as in the last 2 weeks Ive gotten 3k magic items saved. Just the junk ones.

My two cents

Stranger: Actually now that you mention it.... I dont think there are ANY events that dont involve pvp.

[Antioch]

I agree with Valyr.

If you're going to do it again, great, should be fun. However you need to remove craftable items from the count so that people don't sit there crafting items and ADDING to the item count.

[Stranger]

Few points:

1. Cub happened only once on osi. True. But t2a didnt last forever on osi either. More things were introduced to keep it cool and invigorate the shard/economy/etc. Example given: vet rewards. What cub became.

2. If the practical reason behind this, other than just the coolness, is to decrease item count on the server and your worried about people crafting 24/7 than have derrick take out craftable items. Im sure for the most part people hoarde magic items from hunting,tmapping etc. THere not very likely to have hoards of npc pants. Though honestly if you have to cry because omg people took a few days off from pvp, or all the blues werent out and about for you to pick on for a couple days.... Ummm. Whaaa.

3. Every few months I think is way too often. ONce a year as a special anniversary event would be cool I think. Keep it special and rare. Something that those that stay with the server for a whole year look forward to the entire year. I know Im looking forward to one.

Anyways. I casted my vote for yes ofcourse. Ive already started saving items for it. Actually I was saving before I even knew about it. And will continue to do so. If one happens than cool. If not Ill keep saving till I have 50k or so magic items then Ill npc them all and make a mill or two. Shouldnt take too long seeing as in the last 2 weeks Ive gotten 3k magic items saved. Just the junk ones.

My two cents

Stranger: Actually now that you mention it.... I dont think there are ANY events that dont involve pvp.

Aye, good points. I cant see any reason anyone would say no to this other then to keep their CUB items rare. Its not so much the items for me, im a tamer so I could easily just farm for the gold to buy almost anything I wanted in the game, and I just sold a neon dye a couple weeks ago, I dont even use them to be honest. I used one beard dye and thats it. Its just it would be nice to have somthing fun liek this where everyoen is racing to the finish to get as much as they can before its over. A guy can only kill so many liches before he needs a break for somthing else .

[Hoots]

Few points:

1. Cub happened only once on osi. True. But t2a didnt last forever on osi either. More things were introduced to keep it cool and invigorate the shard/economy/etc. Example given: vet rewards. What cub became.

WHy not mimic this and move onto vet rewards?

2. If the practical reason behind this, other than just the coolness, is to decrease item count on the server and your worried about people crafting 24/7 than have derrick take out craftable items. Im sure for the most part people hoarde magic items from hunting,tmapping etc. THere not very likely to have hoards of npc pants. Though honestly if you have to cry because omg people took a few days off from pvp, or all the blues werent out and about for you to pick on for a couple days.... Ummm. Whaaa.

No one is crying (except perhaps for people who missed out on CUB). I was disagreeing with the post claiming CUB was a "fun" event. It was 100% anti social, solo, craftfests. Maybe PvM'ers had a good time with no PKS in the dungeons but that is not what most would call a "fun event"

3. Every few months I think is way too often. ONce a year as a special anniversary event would be cool I think. Keep it special and rare. Something that those that stay with the server for a whole year look forward to the entire year. I know Im looking forward to one.

This doesnt change that CUB only happened on OSI once. You know what? I missed the best rewards in the history of this shard.... i wasnt playing during easter and missed the black dye tubs... Can i have one please? Im really looking forward to it.... see my point?

Anyways. I casted my vote for yes ofcourse. Ive already started saving items for it. Actually I was saving before I even knew about it. And will continue to do so. If one happens than cool. If not Ill keep saving till I have 50k or so magic items then Ill npc them all and make a mill or two. Shouldnt take too long seeing as in the last 2 weeks Ive gotten 3k magic items saved. Just the junk ones.

My two cents

Stranger: Actually now that you mention it.... I dont think there are ANY events that dont involve pvp.

Saving items for this event is exactly why IMHO another should not happen. It was a surprise on OSI and the same here.

[Hoots]

Aye, good points. I cant see any reason anyone would say no to this other then to keep their CUB items rare. Its not so much the items for me, im a tamer so I could easily just farm for the gold to buy almost anything I wanted in the game, and I just sold a neon dye a couple weeks ago, I dont even use them to be honest. I used one beard dye and thats it. Its just it would be nice to have somthing fun liek this where everyoen is racing to the finish to get as much as they can before its over. A guy can only kill so many liches before he needs a break for somthing else .

Stranger. What is this "event" you are talking about? Explain to me how CUB was or would be an event.

People cleaned their houses out. FOr 95% of this shard that takes less than 2 hours.
Then people afk'd crafting for days.
The end

I could see people claiming it would make dungeons hot spots bc of farming items and reds farming farmers but that simply didnt or wouldnt happen. The law of UO is everyone will do the easiest method for items/skills/gold/rewards/etc. That hasnt changed in 10 years of this game!


So there are 2 sides. Tha "haves" who dont want another CUB and the "have nots" who want one. Both are claiming the otherside has selfish motivation and both sides are most likely right.

[DrFaustus]

CUB won't happen again...

Just like server-births won't happen again.