Seriously?????

[Mikel123]

I thought EQ only damaged a percentage of a player or animal's health... I didn't think you could kill anyone or anything with it. Has this changed? I remember reading that EQ now does over 50% of a target's health in damage. Maybe it rounds up if the player is at 1 HP?

[Mikel123]

Also, how does Derrick have 100 STR, 100 INT and 30 DEX?

haXXXXXXXXX!

And I love that he has a shortcut for stealing. Kind of unfair, IMO.

[Derrick]

Also, how does Derrick have 100 STR, 100 INT and 30 DEX?

haXXXXXXXXX!

And I love that he has a shortcut for stealing. Kind of unfair, IMO.

I cast Agility with my 50 magery

A player is eligible for a Murder count whenever they damage an innocent player and that player subsequently dies before being recovering to full health. This is of course a little off topic, but the mechanic of this is accurate to OSI. Anyone who participates in the killing of a player is responsible if he dies; the only other exception is if the player recalls away.

[Downs]

I tried to Eq the sheep in the other tower, and the guy there had 3 people hidden amongst all the sheep. When I noticed that I had accidentially damaged 3 players, I stopped.

This guy however, logs in a 4th character and then kills all 3 of the guys that I had accidentally targeted, thus passing out 3 murder counts to me....even though he was the one who killed them.

Anyone else see a problem with this?

You can seriously do that? So if you START the damage, and someone else finishes it - the person who started the damage gets the murder count? Interesting.

You can see the link in my sig for an example of this happening.

[Sum_Mors]

You can seriously do that? So if you START the damage, and someone else finishes it - the person who started the damage gets the murder count? Interesting.

Kind of. When multiples are involved in the death of a player, a separate gump appears for each involved in the attack for murder counts. Thus he could give the aggressor a count, and not report the ones he used to kill himself.

This is fully able to be done. The person was intending to kill the whole time, just balked at the idea of 'oh my goodness, there's more consequences than I saw before!'.

Deal with your counts.

[IdleBlade]

isn't the bigger question here where did this 4th character come from if we are allowed only 3 accounts?

[Duke Jones]

I tried to Eq the sheep in the other tower, and the guy there had 3 people hidden amongst all the sheep. When I noticed that I had accidentially damaged 3 players, I stopped.

This guy however, logs in a 4th character and then kills all 3 of the guys that I had accidentally targeted, thus passing out 3 murder counts to me....even though he was the one who killed them.

Anyone else see a problem with this?

Regarding the 4th. Character. This might not be same player. This could be a friend of the house or something.

But if it was in the same tower, it does seem a bit suspicious. Any way to check?

[nickhimself]

I don't see any problem with him doing that to you. You were spiteful enough to kill off his sheep. He was smart and had a few hidden characters in there to kill off in case someone decided to do that.

Maybe you should let him do his thing next time, rather than be jealous and take out his sheep?

As for the other guy... if that doesn't say "Look at my rail!" I don't know what does.

[Duke Jones]

I don't see any problem with him doing that to you. You were spiteful enough to kill off his sheep. He was smart and had a few hidden characters in there to kill off in case someone decided to do that.

Maybe you should let him do his thing next time, rather than be jealous and take out his sheep?

As for the other guy... if that doesn't say "Look at my rail!" I don't know what does.

The issue was AFK resource gathering, which is illegal on this shard.
And we're not focusing on the issue that he got the multiple murder counts (at least not anymore, since this mechanic on pvp has been verified as working correctly) We were curious as to how he had a possible 4th account character(3 accounts being the standard maximum account number)

[Downs]

hard to prove i'd guess. We're allowed to run 4 clients.

[nickhimself]

Oh I see. Yeah, I thought 3 was the max? If that's the case...I think that should be looked in to.

So, if both towers had characters that were at the tower, would you have stopped EQ'ing if they reacted by running around?

I don't see any problem with him doing that to you. You were spiteful enough to kill off his sheep. He was smart and had a few hidden characters in there to kill off in case someone decided to do that.

Maybe you should let him do his thing next time, rather than be jealous and take out his sheep?

As for the other guy... if that doesn't say "Look at my rail!" I don't know what does.

The issue was AFK resource gathering, which is illegal on this shard.
And we're not focusing on the issue that he got the multiple murder counts (at least not anymore, since this mechanic on pvp has been verified as working correctly) We were curious as to how he had a possible 4th account character(3 accounts being the standard maximum account number)

[Derrick]

hard to prove i'd guess. We're allowed to run 4 clients.

You are not allowed to run four clients. 4 connections per IP address is the limit, and this is an easement for multiple players in the same household.

You can have 3 accounts, and may only run 3 accounts at once.

[XoNe]

Wow, we're famous!

I'd count your lucky stars it was only 3. Let's just say you're not the first griefer we've had visit our pleasant little home. Others were not quite as lucky as yourself and went red outside our door. We call it the 'fee' for griefing us.

Surely it doesn't upset you that you purposely tried to grief us and took 3 counts as payment for your amusement? Do you feel ripped off? Was the price too high? We feel it was only a fair trade and that we got as much amusement as you. We lost half our sheep as the 'fee' for giving you some counts. It was just a shame you ran off before we could come out and have a chat about it.

Derrick visits us often enough to be able to confirm we are not unattended. He's welcome to come say hello any time, as long as he brings gifts!

Note the word "we" ... not "me" or "I" ... that explains your 4 accounts.

[poogoblin]

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[Duke Jones]

Wow, we're famous!

I'd count your lucky stars it was only 3. Let's just say you're not the first griefer we've had visit our pleasant little home. Others were not quite as lucky as yourself and went red outside our door. We call it the 'fee' for griefing us.

Surely it doesn't upset you that you purposely tried to grief us and took 3 counts as payment for your amusement? Do you feel ripped off? Was the price too high? We feel it was only a fair trade and that we got as much amusement as you. We lost half our sheep as the 'fee' for giving you some counts. It was just a shame you ran off before we could come out and have a chat about it.

Derrick visits us often enough to be able to confirm we are not unattended. He's welcome to come say hello any time, as long as he brings gifts!

Note the word "we" ... not "me" or "I" ... that explains your 4 accounts.

I apologize for the confusion. With the current player base, you can never be too sure.

You have every right to defend your farm. I love seeing unique player ideas. The original post with the 2 pics. Look at them. Yours had the sheep wandering fee all over the place. It was lovely.

The second pic. Was cold, unfeeling, automated. It was a bot's path to sheer sheep. It makes me sad.