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Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:24 pm
by son
Was the ZOG guy REALLY trolling? How about Josh Lee? How about Kabal?
if this guys aint trolling, hes probably also voting, and I bet in Florida folks.
Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:34 am
by Li Meiyang
Li Meiyang wrote:I think a good PVPer ought to focus on crafting skills. And carry a house deed on his person.
That way during combat, let's say your facing a macer and all your armor is getting damaged, just drop a small house in the vicinity, then quickly craft and place an anvil and forge to make your repairs or even craft a whole new set of GM plate right on the spot -rather than having to go recall back to another location to do it. Huge, huge timesaver.
And you put this on a lightning fast razor script, so it can all be done betwixt chugging pots, swinging a weapon, running, casting, whathaveyou...
I just want to add something here, cuz it's a classic rookie mistake. It's important to remember this house and its furnishings are constantly going to be constructed and deconstructed as it follows you in real-time throughout the field of battle. So when it comes to decor, remember that this is a balls-on down-and-dirty PVP technique, and therefore *not* a stay at the Ritz Carlton. Start thinking "rustic" instead. So in addition to your craftable fixtures (like the spinning wheel and loom you'll need to process wool from passing sheep during a fight and cut into bandages, saving you all the hassle of preparing them ahead of time) feel free to add some *modest* touches of home, like basic furnishings, hanging herbs, or other tasteful displays of assorted semi-rares... but steer clear of elaborate projects like aquariums and grand pianos, as they could prove distracting and eat into the clicks you need to perform combos on your opponents or otherwise ably defend yourself.
Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:25 am
by keelonzo
Li Meiyang wrote:Li Meiyang wrote:I think a good PVPer ought to focus on crafting skills. And carry a house deed on his person.
That way during combat, let's say your facing a macer and all your armor is getting damaged, just drop a small house in the vicinity, then quickly craft and place an anvil and forge to make your repairs or even craft a whole new set of GM plate right on the spot -rather than having to go recall back to another location to do it. Huge, huge timesaver.
And you put this on a lightning fast razor script, so it can all be done betwixt chugging pots, swinging a weapon, running, casting, whathaveyou...
I just want to add something here, cuz it's a classic rookie mistake. It's important to remember this house and its furnishings are constantly going to be constructed and deconstructed as it follows you in real-time throughout the field of battle. So when it comes to decor, remember that this is a balls-on down-and-dirty PVP technique, and therefore *not* a stay at the Ritz Carlton. Start thinking "rustic" instead. So in addition to your craftable fixtures (like the spinning wheel and loom you'll need to process wool from passing sheep during a fight and cut into bandages, saving you all the hassle of preparing them ahead of time) feel free to add some *modest* touches of home, like basic furnishings, hanging herbs, or other tasteful displays of assorted semi-rares... but steer clear of elaborate projects like aquariums and grand pianos, as they could prove distracting and eat into the clicks you need to perform combos on your opponents or otherwise ably defend yourself.
A titch too far Mei - A+ on the first go round, but the additions subtracted from the LOL's in this case.
Was going to remove the 80 Wrestling and include Archery and Parry....... seems legit?
Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:06 am
by Li Meiyang
No that's actually the level everyone else is expected to elevate their humor to. I'm not toning anything down, quite the opposite.
I will accept nothing less than extreme hyperbolic sarcasm. That's the bar being set here.

Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:04 pm
by archaicsubrosa77
Frank White wrote:Did you duel Still standing yet? stfu and duel him !!
I called him out and he told me to go to irc...
I am not playing that game. We were both on. I even told him pick the place.
Why you want to fight>?
*if you want to call names still sucking go to an Elementary school al la Sandy Hook to make up for all the bullying done to you as a wee lil brat. If you wanted to fight... you would have accepted then and there.
Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:06 pm
by archaicsubrosa77
trust me...you can cure against a poisoner with just lessers even if its DP.
So might as well have enough cures and be able to poison as well.
I have the same scheme in what I am doing, like I said I put examples out...to make you think.
Using a gater I will be doing this
Macing
Swords
Tactics
Anatomy 90
Healing
Poisoning
Resist 95
Alchemy 15
that is my resource warrior.... in my original post I said the focus was on 15 alchemy. At that level you can make all lesser pots and normal poison. This one will drain you of all your cures and refresh. If I need to gate I have PC 2. (the alternate above in the op is for recalling if you do not have that setup) If you dont know how to make a ton of pots in seconds I suggest looking up the page on building poisoning and alchemy put out by Matron. Against low dex, Armor, or medi-warriors with healing it doesn't matter...
Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:31 am
by Li Meiyang
archaicsubrosa77 wrote:trust me...you can cure against a poisoner with just lessers even if its DP.
So might as well have enough cures and be able to poison as well.
I have the same scheme in what I am doing, like I said I put examples out...to make you think.
Using a gater I will be doing this
Macing
Swords
Tactics
Anatomy 90
Healing
Poisoning
Resist 95
Alchemy 15
that is my resource warrior.... in my original post I said the focus was on 15 alchemy. At that level you can make all lesser pots and normal poison. This one will drain you of all your cures and refresh. If I need to gate I have PC 2. (the alternate above in the op is for recalling if you do not have that setup) If you dont know how to make a ton of pots in seconds I suggest looking up the page on building poisoning and alchemy put out by Matron. Against low dex, Armor, or medi-warriors with healing it doesn't matter...
Lesser cures work on DP what % of the time? Seems risky. If somebody DPs you, you're gonna lose a lot of HPs waiting to chug your next cure pot after one fails, or waiting for your bandage to do the job.
And why do you need two melee skills (swords AND maces)?
And how can you have any build, even a dexxer, without 30 magery? I've tried it and it SUCKS. You fail off recall scrolls, cannot bless yourself or teleport. Having another char gate isn't really a great solution, cuz that means you're tied to the gate area and also you have to switch screens to cast gate with the other char... both of which are really not good at all if you're trying to flee.
I mean if you're gonna go that route, you might as well make your gater a GM alchemist, macroing greater pots, popping in and handing them to you.

Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:27 pm
by Malaikat
Unless they patched it, lessers cure dp every time. Also, tele rings, strength and agility pots, or bless jewelry. I rarely cast on a dexer.
Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:35 pm
by Menkaure
Archaic dont act like hazy was the one avoiding your fight. You kept asking for time to get your resist up and crap. If your gonna fight him do it, if not that's fine too but don't act like he's the one stalling.
And you never answered my question, if you think these builds work, why don't you record a fight and show everyone? You love to do the "theory" warrior, but again it doesn't mean anything if it actually won't work in battle.
Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:48 pm
by Li Meiyang
Malaikat wrote:Unless they patched it, lessers cure dp every time. Also, tele rings, strength and agility pots, or bless jewelry. I rarely cast on a dexer.
Oh ok, I stand corrected on this point then. I'm also gonna stop wasting my gold on kegs of greater cure. (Why do you say "patched", is not era accurate?)
I cast bless sometimes, or agility if I don't have the pots on me, but usually I've got all the pots on me. Teleport comes in handy. The one thing you can't escape is recall, that's why I keep 30 magery on *any* build.
Even that being the case though I still dont' get it. In order to make all those pots he's gotta be carrying regs and bottles and mortars... so there's not much savings in weight. Still makes more sense to me just to recall back to your bank box to restock on pots.
But I'm gonna shut up now, cuz I was wrong about the cure pots, so who knows what else I'm not getting. Maybe Archaic is a UO prodigy at such a high level that people have yet to realize it.

Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:07 pm
by Malaikat
Oh, I'm not saying his build is good. It isn't. I was just giving you some pro tips. Don't disarm on a dexer unless you have to. 30 or even 50 magery is fine, but gm wrestle is a waste so spells are last option in the thick of things.
Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:48 pm
by Li Meiyang
Menkaure wrote:You love to do the "theory" warrior, but again it doesn't mean anything if it actually won't work in battle.
Well I, for one, am joining team archaic and going purely Theoretical PVP. In "real" PVP, like in the game, it's pretty easy to get killed and lose all ur stuff. But in Theoretical Forum PVP I'll whoop all ya'lls asses six ways to Sunday and seven back again.
So come on, let's bring it... *RIGHT NOW*
POP! Oops, you're dead already. In under a second
What's that? All I can hear is "Ooooooooo".
NEXT.
Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:15 pm
by inkognito
Li Meiyang wrote:Menkaure wrote:You love to do the "theory" warrior, but again it doesn't mean anything if it actually won't work in battle.
Well I, for one, am joining team archaic and going purely Theoretical PVP. In "real" PVP, like in the game, it's pretty easy to get killed and lose all ur stuff. But in Theoretical Forum PVP I'll whoop all ya'lls asses six ways to Sunday and seven back again.
So come on, let's bring it... *RIGHT NOW*
POP! Oops, you're dead already. In under a second
What's that? All I can hear is "Ooooooooo".
NEXT.
Drugs are bad.
I did however lol when you mentioned sticking with modest furnishings when placing a house in the middle of a pvp battle, whilst their opponent stands outside like 'wtf, get out here and fight'
Re: Example of a 9 skilll build that works
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:37 pm
by Li Meiyang
Crack!
Thwack!
Shazaam!!!
Sorry it took so long to kill you, I was simultaneously assembling an aquarium.
Did you say something about drugs? Hold up, I'll rez.