INCREASE POPULATION NOW******

[Abyz]

350k in 6 hours using EV scrolls? You're full of crap as usual suckinpro.

[FishinPro]

350k in 6 hours using EV scrolls? You're full of crap as usual suckinpro.

Learn to get good while the gettins good Assyz...

Have 6 different locations marked with all the top spawn and recall around EVing them...not that hard of a concept, use your brain dik....

[Abyz]

And you accuse someone else of basement dwelling... Rofl

[Menkaure]

I agree to an extent Kaivan. I honesty think 1 small fix would change everything. Ban macroing. Yes I've read everything about how y'all don't have the man power to do this etc; BUT still ban it. If someone's caught they face discipline. It would stop a lot of the macroing an force peoe outside. Also, a server wipe would be amazing though I know that's impossible.

[Abyz]

Sorry Menk.... Server wipe would be an awful move.

[FishinPro]

I agree to an extent Kaivan. I honesty think 1 small fix would change everything. Ban macroing. Yes I've read everything about how y'all don't have the man power to do this etc; BUT still ban it. If someone's caught they face discipline. It would stop a lot of the macroing an force peoe outside. Also, a server wipe would be amazing though I know that's impossible.

It's not impossible. There is a script you can easily run on the server that checks for people doing the same thing over and over and over again and a box could pop up that asks for you to verify you are not AFK. If you don't, it ships you to jail and you can be dealt with later. This is being done on another UOR server....

A wipe is not impossible, it would just kill the shard completely.

[skynyrd2]

Some of my comments may have seemed oppostional and brash. I apologize this is only derived from my passion towards the server.

My last question is

IF a suggestion was made that would better the server in population and activity, while staying within the realm of era accuracy. Would implemation of this suggestion be considered or completely thrown out? Or are there any ideas in the making we may not know about.

We have a lot of great idealist who support era accuracy and have passion to create a better server. But, these ideas are never heard in thoughts of ultimately just being shot down by staff no matter what.


I know a couple people whom have spoken to Derrick directly and seem to have a great outlook of this server so obviously he does a good job of conveying what he wants. But the majority of the current population is at a current stand still not knowing if it will be shut down tomorrow or 10 years from now. This is really the only freeserver that started incredibly small and grew. Why? Mainly because of the staff being communicators and listening to the community whether they do anything about it or not.

Thanks.

[Excretious]

Great thread, I love this topic and wish people could get along while discussing it. I played OSI/Great Lakes server from '99 really heavily to finally cancelling my accounts that I NEVER played in '09.


One thing that keeps me out of the dungeons here is the crap ton of ettins, orc, silver serps, rats and slimes that I dont remember being in such huge numbers back on OSI. Sure they were in the dungeons but NO F'N way where there so many of em lol

On great lakes there were some cool ass places to PVM. Most notably that room south of where the balron spawns in hyloth, there used to be two daemons and two gargoyles that spawned. After manipulating the junk spawn around to the west by the stairs, I would lure the balron down to the daemons with a provoker and just wreak havoc.

The Lich Lord room on Great Lakes server was a place to be feared with 2 silver serps, three liches and two Lich Lords. We would farm liches upstairs in the main room and when someone would recall in and head down the the stairs to the Lich Lords, we would follow the crazy bastards to watch what chaos would ensue!

Fire dungeon had a room on the second floor in between the efreets and evil mages that spawned 3 liches at a time. You go there on this server and its over-run by orcs, scorpions and lava lizards

Whenever the discussion of correct spawning comes up, ppl either say shit like "pics or it didnt happen" or you'll get comments from people who never played on an OSI server.

Lastly, the amount of time you have to wait around for things to respawn here I feel could be looked at. I remember Ancient Wyrms took a while to spawn but Ice fiends, and balrons seem to respawn sloooow.


That guy that posted that all he does is drop ev's and keeps recalling around looting corpses is not how I remember UO being at all. Not to mention bragging about the fact that you did that for six hours straight.... LOL


Dont get me wrong, I love this server, always try to donate when I can and will never leave, but for the reason I posted above is what makes things feel stale from a pvm/dungeon hunter standpoint.

[Kaivan]

IF a suggestion was made that would better the server in population and activity, while staying within the realm of era accuracy. Would implemation of this suggestion be considered or completely thrown out? Or are there any ideas in the making we may not know about.

It depends on whether the suggestion interferes with mechanical accuracy, among other things. We cannot excuse mechanical accuracy for the interest of any group of players, because this gives validity to an argument to change any mechanic under the exact same premise.

This is really the only freeserver that started incredibly small and grew. Why? Mainly because of the staff being communicators and listening to the community whether they do anything about it or not.

There are several other free servers that actually started quite small, including UO Gamers Hybrid; we are by no means unique in that category. As for our success, there are many opinions on why we have been successful, and placing a majority of the success on any one thing such as our communication is not an accurate representation.

[skynyrd2]

IF a suggestion was made that would better the server in population and activity, while staying within the realm of era accuracy. Would implemation of this suggestion be considered or completely thrown out? Or are there any ideas in the making we may not know about.

It depends on whether the suggestion interferes with mechanical accuracy, among other things. We cannot excuse mechanical accuracy for the interest of any group of players, because this gives validity to an argument to change any mechanic under the exact same premise.

This is really the only freeserver that started incredibly small and grew. Why? Mainly because of the staff being communicators and listening to the community whether they do anything about it or not.

There are several other free servers that actually started quite small, including UO Gamers Hybrid; we are by no means unique in that category. As for our success, there are many opinions on why we have been successful, and placing a majority of the success on any one thing such as our communication is not an accurate representation.

It was a compliment towards UOSA and Derrick as a whole. I'm surprised you even mention that other place in the same Line as uosa yuck. The top most famous free servers that were t2a had a dick as admin so majority of people claim uosa was refreshing due to friendly staff. Whether you like uosa or not it's a common know fact Derrick did a great job working w community on this.

I have my answers to most questions regarding second age and we as a whole need to stop dreaming and caring so much.

[The oOo]

LOTS of PvP'ers...Active PvP Guilds...Player-Sponsored PvP Events...PK's...

Very FEW PvM'ers...Active PvM Guilds...Player-Sponsored PvM Events...

The response in numbers of people who miraculously appear for the Staff-Sponsored Gem-Encrusted PvM Events should speak for itself.

The community itself is out of balance with any "significant" new playerbase if PvP is to be the "front end" of UOSA gameplay.

People come for the PvM [character building] and stay for the PvP [character playing]...not the other way around IMO.

my five cents...keep the change

[azheman]

I love Kaivan.

Best explanations ever.

In the words of ahhnold "stop whining"

[N-SilverBABY!!]

And this is the prime problem with UOSA the STAFF!! yes I said it the staff would rather stand by and watch the population go down to nothing then god forbid make there shard fun to people who don't sit at the GY all day waiting for someone else to spoon feed them fun. And wall I'm at it im going to throw out the hypocrisy of half the guys on this shard who are saying "OMG TRAMMIE go fuck off to a shard with all the neon shit" MEANWHILE the same fuckers who are telling you this are riding pure mares with blessed sandals and clothing and MAYBE have neon hair......fucking disgusting.

O yeah and by the way incase you cant tell by my name I made a lot of money from the whole N-S silver thing AND I still got a lot of silver but if it means bringing 100 people to this shard I would GLADLY have all my silver devalued to NOTHING!!!! I SUPPORT Abyz and his idea of a 0.5 drop or something along those lines because to spite what people think N-S isn't a guild of assholes we just enjoy killing people......AND THERE ARE NO PEOPLE TO KILLZORS WTF

[Kaivan]

It was a compliment towards UOSA and Derrick as a whole. I'm surprised you even mention that other place in the same Line as uosa yuck.

I'm fully aware that your statement was intended as a compliment for the server, but the statement was factually in error, and it is important to consider that we are not special in every way that someone may feel we are. As for mentioning specific servers, that was intentionally done as a vehicle for making the point.

yes I said it the staff would rather stand by and watch the population go down to nothing then god forbid make there shard fun to people who don't sit at the GY all day waiting for someone else to spoon feed them fun.

This is dripping with irony.

[Li Meiyang]

I don't think playing out a temporary storyline with unique items would be terribly era inaccurate.

Like for example do something like that old fantasy series, Book of Swords by Fred Saberhagen, where ungodly powerful weapons are spread out among the mortals, but adapted with UO lore. These weapons won't last forever, just long enough for players to have fun and to stir the pot a little. Maybe something like special charges higher than thunder, like flamestrike or earthquake or something! (Just thinking aloud here)

I think as long as it's *temporary* it's fine. Like those ultra powerful weapons would have to be used within a certain time frame or be lost.

I too like the idea of more random special item spawns, to give less talented/new players a shot at attaining rares. Plus it's fun to be surprised once in a while. It's no different than Xmas loot on reindeer, or leprechauns or whatever.

In whatever case though I just want to add that I don't think it's appropriate to be cursing the staff of UOSA, as it's a free shard and they are just trying to hold to things to a standard of era accuracy, which while imperfect, if loosened up too far could be a very slippery slope indeed.

We all have different ideas about how we'd like things to be and why, and can express that reasoning. Frothing at the mouth is entirely uncalled for.