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Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:48 pm
by Menkaure
Pks are not the reason why this shard is dying. I never even seen anyone when I farmed.
The newbie population that quits within a week or two because of a pk here and there were going to quit eventually anyways because they are used to games like WoW or Trammel OSI UO.
The guys that stay dont quit because of a few pks. They quit because they are playing a 16 year old game with 16 year old AI, and fighting mindless mobs is hilariously easy, and pretty much a joke. After they master PVE(which takes a month if youve never played before), then they can either get into PVP, or crafting/selling, or Idoccing. If they find none of the above fun, they quit. OR if they just get bored quickly by it, they quit. Its why older games like this have to come out with expansions (not saying UOSA needs to come out with an expansion just saying old games in general) in order to survive. If World of Warcraft never came out with an expansion, you think people would start to get bored?? Also, dont forget, this game, and this era is not like other games. In Shadowbane you can make a million different combinations of race/class/discipline to have a competitive character. Here in UO world, though, its tank mage or dexxer for pvp, and then all of the rest. It can get boring, one can only make so many tank mages, and one can only make so many dexxers.
/end rant.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:51 pm
by Capitalist
All bow down to hero GuardianKnight. I've helped more people in the last 6 months than you've helped in any given 6 month period on this server, all without sucking my own dick about it. Get over yourself GK. You like to do a couple events for the community, cool. But please put your Mother Teresa glamour shots away. It's old, and everything you've said is just an exaggeration for something that doesn't actually exist. I revert back to my original statement; GuardianKnight wants trammel.
On another note: no shit people get worse on a server whose culture, which I already referred to, is to creatively grief people. You develop thick skin like someone else said and get through it. Whatever someone does past that point is just a reflection of their sadistic balance when handed the options to do so. And by options I don't mean becoming established, because God forbid you misinterpret what I'm saying again. By options I mean monkey see, monkey do... sometimes monkey do better.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:01 pm
by GuardianKnight
Capitalist wrote:All bow down to hero GuardianKnight. I've helped more people in the last 6 months than you've helped in any given 6 month period on this server, all without sucking my own dick about it. Get over yourself GK. You like to do a couple events for the community, cool. But please put your Mother Teresa glamour shots away. It's old, and everything you've said is just an exaggeration for something that doesn't actually exist. I revert back to my original statement; GuardianKnight wants trammel.
On another note: no shit people get worse on a server whose culture, which I already referred to, is to creatively grief people. You develop thick skin like someone else said and get through it. Whatever someone does past that point is just a reflection of their sadistic balance when handed the options to do so. And by options I don't mean becoming established, because God forbid you misinterpret what I'm saying again. By options I mean monkey see, monkey do... sometimes monkey do better.
Right...you just said you didn't suck your own D#$$ about it and then you did. lol
You just went out of your way to attack me as well. Your ego clouds your empathy. If you have any at all.
You've been here 15 months. How many times have you scammed someone (for ANY REASON)? How many times have you (from another perspective) cheated someone? HOw much grief have you caused, uncessarily? Do people see you as a source of good here or are you mostly hated? Do people trust you? Is it completely out of necessity for the things you have? If any of these questions have offended you, then no one else has to answer them here.
I was here in era. I played siege throughout the trammel years. You fail to see the benefit of real community here.
Myself and a few others started the trend that gives you the ability to be trusted, and gives you the ability to ask a "trusted" person to help you with your trades. You take it for granted, though. You use it for your own benefit and then discard every other aspect of it. You gain from my trammel and then spit on it. You might want to reconsider your stance.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:04 pm
by Menkaure
Heh you guys are fighting each other, yet no one sees the real enemy in all this.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:06 pm
by GuardianKnight
Menkaure wrote:Heh you guys are fighting each other, yet no one sees the real enemy in all this.
I wasn't fighting him. He attacked me and I defended.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:09 pm
by dan---
GuardianKnight wrote:Menkaure wrote:Heh you guys are fighting each other, yet no one sees the real enemy in all this.
I wasn't fighting him. He attacked me and I defended.
most places that is how fighting is defined.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:10 pm
by GuardianKnight
dan--- wrote:GuardianKnight wrote:Menkaure wrote:Heh you guys are fighting each other, yet no one sees the real enemy in all this.
I wasn't fighting him. He attacked me and I defended.
most places that is how fighting is defined.
Fighting implies offensive. Defending is a much kinder word.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:16 pm
by Capitalist
GK, there's no easy way to put this. You just sound butthurt because I pointed out that a pussy never wins, especially here. I really don't know what else to tell you... your pussy point of view is nonsensical and doesn't really fit in anywhere in UO except with other people like you. Unfortunately for you, almost no one is like you. You may view that as a positive, but I don't. We have different views on how this game and server should be played, get over it. How many times have I scammed someone? Never. How many times have I stolen? Once, pak man. I should be given a purple heart for that shit. I didn't bother to read any of the rest of your butthurt bullshit, I made my points. My points are valid and more accurate in retrospect than yours. That's not an attack, it's an opinion and one that almost everyone I've spoken with agrees with. Do they have any reason to agree with me other than their own reasoning? Nope. So, again, get over it. You want trammel, and I want death, destruction and greed. Got a problem? This is about the only place you can do anything about it. So man up, stay on point, stay logical, and stop being such a sissy.
GuardianKnight wrote:dan--- wrote:GuardianKnight wrote:Menkaure wrote:Heh you guys are fighting each other, yet no one sees the real enemy in all this.
I wasn't fighting him. He attacked me and I defended.
most places that is how fighting is defined.
Fighting implies offensive. Defending is a much kinder word.
GK The Victim. Call your local bullying hotline or something and act like it doesn't take two to tango if it makes you sleep better at night.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:28 pm
by GuardianKnight
"Capitalist"]GK, there's no easy way to put this. You just sound butthurt because I pointed out that a pussy never wins, especially here. I really don't know what else to tell you... your pussy point of view is nonsensical and doesn't really fit in anywhere in UO except with other people like you. Unfortunately for you, almost no one is like you. You may view that as a positive, but I don't. We have different views on how this game and server should be played, get over it. How many times have I scammed someone? Never. How many times have I stolen? Once, pak man. I should be given a purple heart for that shit. I didn't bother to read any of the rest of your butthurt bullshit, I made my points. My points are valid and more accurate in retrospect than yours. That's not an attack, it's an opinion and one that almost everyone I've spoken with agrees with. Do they have any reason to agree with me other than their own reasoning? Nope. So, again, get over it. You want trammel, and I want death, destruction and greed. Got a problem? This is about the only place you can do anything about it. So man up, stay on point, stay logical, and stop being such a sissy.
The difference is that you are in general discussion and your points are offensive. You come off as blatantly angry/ trolling. Your replies are never closed matters. You write things, hoping to get a passionate response.
My initial post had 0 to do with you. You came at me. You are wrong. You are one sided. You are barely a person, based on anything you have said. I used the word, "you", quite frequently here. I'm sure you like that part. Your roots here are shallow at best. The shallowness that one of uosa's richest people shows, only points to just how empty the server's soul has become.
You're playing a game that thrives from community, pretending that you are playing a game of checkers, taking the other player's pieces and then laughing when it's time for you to be kinged for the 3rd time.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:36 pm
by Capitalist
You fail to apply the contingency of social constructs to social relationships. It's very clear that you (you like you too, right you?!) focus more on relationships and not on the constructs of society themselves. As for the personal attack about me being rich and shallow... sure. If that's the case than I am nothing more than living proof that every person on this shard is a capitalist, and that I am a great one. So please, feed my narcissism. I've shown that hard work to accomplish goals and a little bit of bling in someones face will never let them shy away from interaction. But as far as the shallow part goes, I'm not too sure you're accurate. I feel the need to defend myself only now because you seem to have a fixation solely on me and not in the general discussion of why you love trammel and I love UO hell. I may be a tactful entrepreneur who is only out for his own benefit in trades with the upper echelon, but let's not forget who has spent countless hours on this server just to build a museum to display things that wouldn't normally be seen compiled from those profits. Let's also not ignore how many events I've run, donated to (seriously every single one besides TG events), how many newbies I've helped (every single one that gets in Ventrilo), and how many chopped boxes of newbie treasure I've dropped on Britain Bank from my IDOC pleasures. If that is indeed shallow, then let's compare character values to a guy whom ruins the server by giving house deeds to newbies and had a couple dungeon crawls. You do realize that there is no more of a proud feeling than working your way up to placing your own small house, right? Good job on that one. That's the whole social construct versus relations thing punching you in the face again.
I'm done here because my simple summary of all things you've in detail pointed out to be true has now let you become so butthurt that you've derailed the entire thread. My last words to you in this thread are this: You can't quit and pretend you're a factor anymore. Good day.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:39 pm
by Kaivan
This thread has far too much trash talk in it at the moment. Clean it up, or it's going into the appropriate section.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:40 pm
by Capitalist
Capitalist wrote:I'm done here because my simple summary of all things you've in detail pointed out to be true has now let you become so butthurt that you've derailed the entire thread.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:53 pm
by GuardianKnight
Capitalist wrote:Capitalist wrote:I'm done here because my simple summary of all things you've in detail pointed out to be true has now let you become so butthurt that you've derailed the entire thread.
Anyway, without adding to his crap anymore. My point, as advertised by our back and forth, is that the problem isn't the server, the mechanics, or the staff. The issue is the playerbase.
The silly scuffle that I was drawn into has only made the point much clearer. The current "upper eschelon" of UOSA is what is killing UOSA.
They can change or they can sit on their pile of dragon treasure, inside their empty castle, looking down on the empty towns and the desolate dungeons.
This server suffers from social issues.
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:18 pm
by Budner
This world would be a better place if everybody would love one another
Re: Server Dead
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:21 pm
by GuardianKnight
CRockwell wrote:This server very much feels as though it's dead. Even the pkers are gone. Did everyone go to AnCorp or has UO itself finally die? Thoughts? I'm curious how many people are playing ancorp?
Players:
Pks run players off. No players available to pk, runs pks off.
Market:
The player market is based on "i'm not buying for that price", rather than " I am selling for this price and this is what it is worth". People feel cheated or like they are taking a loss.
Inflation:
There are a few people with years of gold stored up and growing, who will take anything you want for more than you'll ever afford.
Backroom deals:
Most of the big trades and special things are traded by pm. You will never have the option to get the truly spectacular deals. Years of connections and favors put you at a disadvantage, as a new player.
Accounts: Everyone has a crafter.
The market for crafters is post mortem. Unless you want to make your own crafter for your own needs, they will gain you very little. There is the occassional guy that needs halbards or furniture, but only because they are too lazy to get on their crafter.
Noob resources are not as needed as they should be.
Housing: Vets own everything above small to mid sized houses
5 houses per account. 15 houses per person. I came here first, so all the houses are mine. Pay my prices or go away...unless I don't want to ever sell them.
IRC:
Used mainly to flaunt ego and see random links to forum deals. When I was a newbie, I tried asking questions. 40% were answered and the rest were met with silliness and namecalling. I took to learning to adapt to the theme of the player conversation. Added my own brand of silliness... created a new kind of useless banter that continues to evolve and block real questions in irc, scaring newbies off.
Scams: This is a good side of uosa (to some)
Scams are at an all time low (if you know to use a broker)
Classes: What should you be?
Bard or tamer to begin (to begin). Hally mage and hybrid end game. Nothing else is valid.
This is why UO:R era excelled before trammel became a thing. I was lucky to be on siege, where there was no trammel, but all the benefits of UO:R (not the player shard that is even a bastardization of the real UO:R mechanics).