Removal of Events (Era-Accuracy)

[alatar]

Yeah, I totally just suggested the complete removal of ALL events on UOSA.

Why?

1: It's definitely not Era-Accurate.. Yeah, I can play that Era Accurate card too.. There were never any GM's on OSI hosting frequent CTF Events, or 1v1 Tournaments. There was 1 (One) PvP Tournament in the entire history of my gaming career on OSI, and that was linked between EVERY Server OSI had..

2: Economy: We have a bunch of people who only log on to play events. If I am not mistaken the current market for trophies is up to 10000 per point.. These people are spending gold on items that aren't even accurate to the time-frame that we are shooting for. Furthermore, after they acquire enough, they can then turn in the trophies for even more items that are also not within our time-frame.. There were never people running around with Neon Blue Deer Masks during T2A on OSI..

3: Interaction: Without events, people will either be training characters, farming for resources & supplies, or on the field, whether it be for PvP or to go in search of victims to PK. This is why you could go to almost any location on OSI and find a victim, if you so choose to do so.. As it is now, most of our PvP stems in the form of Events, and then the occasional flood of PvP Players who exit the Event Area.. Removing the events will force the people who only play here for events, to either quit altogether, or play regularly..

Buc's Den = regular pvp action anybody..?

4: Reason for Events: It was my understanding that the implementing of Events was only a temporary thing, and that once the player-base had reached a stable & comfortable number, that they were to be removed anyways.. I remember when I first started here there were not any events, and the few that we did have were definitely not "Automated" and constant like they are now..

5: Regarding the trammel items that people have acquired. Obviously we can't just take away what they have earned, that's understood. Just grandfather them, and the existing items will be 10x more rare than they already are.. I would gladly give up my 350-point item I obtained (black blessed sandals) to this suggestion, but I know a lot of these trammel tools love their pixels more than anything in this game..

6 This post was specifically created to piss off the people who constantly bitch and whine about the trophy points for CTF and other type of event bullshit. Who cares, get over it.

[Clyde-]

Ok, straight up? If the admins are going to play the era accuracy card about every other game mechanic we have, then this should definately be one of them. You can't just go around picking and choosing, and making up reasons why you have made millions of pvp changes for "era-accuracy" while over looking this one.

[Hemperor]

picking and choosing... my topic named that was deleted.

do it, doubt it will happen.

[alatar]

picking and choosing... my topic named that was deleted.

do it, doubt it will happen.

Are you and Faust dating now?

How far along are you..?

[zzyzx]

*sigh*

These tournaments are for the enjoyment of everyone. I'm sure they are optional and I'm sure Derrick put them in just so we could have a little fun. To the extent you people take some things is asinine.

Changes in PvP are for era accuracy, events are for fun.

Go ahead, ruin the fun for everyone else. See how far you can pull this "era accuracy" BS to try and totally ruin this shard.

[Hemperor]

*sigh*

These tournaments are for the enjoyment of everyone. I'm sure they are optional and I'm sure Derrick put them in just so we could have a little fun. To the extent you people take some things is asinine.

Changes in PvP are for era accuracy, events are for fun.

Go ahead, ruin the fun for everyone else. See how far you can pull this "era accuracy" BS to try and totally ruin this shard.

until something is done to prevent people ghosting on 3 clients while pvping on a fourth, or someone mining on 3 clients while playing on a fourth, i say remove events.

[alatar]

Go ahead, ruin the fun for everyone else. See how far you can pull this "era accuracy" BS to try and totally ruin this shard.

You guys started it. Now im just fighting fire with fire. Enjoy-

<-- Mr. Green

[Mirage]

*sigh*

These tournaments are for the enjoyment of everyone. I'm sure they are optional and I'm sure Derrick put them in just so we could have a little fun. To the extent you people take some things is asinine.

Changes in PvP are for era accuracy, events are for fun.

Go ahead, ruin the fun for everyone else. See how far you can pull this "era accuracy" BS to try and totally ruin this shard.

x2

Didn't I just see you clyde in the CTF trophy thread asking for trophies to be re-implemented? lol

[Clyde-]

Ruin the fun? what ruins the fun is when 85% of you literally macro or sit in town all day or do nothing but gather resources. Then when it comes time to pvp you want to do the same repetitive CTF etc, bs where there is literally no risk at all in participating. Yeah thats fun. You can't just sit there and say that era-accuracy only applies to pvp or game mechanics, when hued items, trophy points, and automated events are excluded. if you want to add the "fun" factor in why not just make it to where no one can lose anything if they die, no stat loss, etc. because its for the fun and enjoyment of the game. That is NOT era-accuracy which is what this shard was built upon.

For me, its fun to kill people, so why not add a feature where i can insta kill ppl w/ one hally hit? Its fun right? Yeah but its not era accurate. Like i said, you can't be accurate about every other little detail and then just throw this crap in there and make an "exception" simply b/c the players find it enjoying. You can still enjoy the game JUST as much w/out them.

[Mirage]

I honestly wish there would be alot more tournies..i mean after the tournies we used to go tobucs and have straight up brawls. Now its all about avoiding kain's 50+ dragons or trying to stop somone from spamming recall..

/Credibility?

[zzyzx]

Ruin the fun? what ruins the fun is when 85% of you literally macro or sit in town all day or do nothing but gather resources. Then when it comes time to pvp you want to do the same repetitive CTF etc, bs where there is literally no risk at all in participating. Yeah thats fun. You can't just sit there and say that era-accuracy only applies to pvp or game mechanics, when hued items, trophy points, and automated events are excluded. if you want to add the "fun" factor in why not just make it to where no one can lose anything if they die, no stat loss, etc. because its for the fun and enjoyment of the game. That is NOT era-accuracy which is what this shard was built upon.

For me, its fun to kill people, so why not add a feature where i can insta kill ppl w/ one hally hit? Its fun right? Yeah but its not era accurate. Like i said, you can't be accurate about every other little detail and then just throw this crap in there and make an "exception" simply b/c the players find it enjoying. You can still enjoy the game JUST as much w/out them.

You're being an idiot. I wouldn't have very much fun if you could insta kill me with one hally hit, nor would you have fun if people could insta kill YOU.

I would, however, have fun running into you in the field, battling with you, and given my sucky PvP skills, inevitably running away, but still... fun.

Events are simply a game within the game. Sure, some of the stuff (trophies, rewards) leak into the real game from the inner game, and maybe those can be addressed. But the events themselves are just purely in the name of fun.

[alatar]

I honestly wish there would be alot more tournies..i mean after the tournies we used to go tobucs and have straight up brawls. Now its all about avoiding kain's 50+ dragons or trying to stop somone from spamming recall..

/Credibility?

That's because that is all there is to do, because everyone has become accustom to simply waiting for Events to start to engage in PvP. The only people you find out in the field for PvP, are the people who either:

A: Enjoy playing as a murderer.. Ahem..
B: Are grouped together in a guild, synching dumps.. (No complaint here)
C: The occasional "farmer" who you happen to of caught off-guard..
D: The people who everyone in IRC heard about your location and came to gank you.. (Again no complaint, any action is better than none)

I don't really care about ganks, or dying, I enjoy the action of the game.. Staying alive, especially when outnumbered is half of the fun, at least it is for me and my guildmates.. These stupid events completely remove any Risk vs. Reward factor, and it's utterly boring to chase the same mother fucker with the flag down the same hallway over & over again..

Tournaments are enjoyable, I admit I do enjoy them, but what has it come to? Half of our decent players (Choppa X, Mazer, for example..) strictly log on for Tournaments only.. Obviously they don't play here for a reason, so they log on for prime-time only. Fuck that, remove events, and they will either play like the entire shard, or they won't play at all.

I don't even need speak about the other events, they are already corrupt and unbalanced as it is.. Last Man Standing, are we serious? That's last guild standing. Enjoyable, I highly doubt it, if it were so much fun, why are there 20+ threads about the way people are abusing the system & mechanics built around the event..

You want to have something enjoyable, do it like OSI did it. If you're going to have an event, do it on the fucking game-map.. Don't take everyone to a place where they can just stand there afk and not worry about losing jack shit. There wasn't a single location in T2A where you were ever safe from Death and losing your possessions..

[Faust]

Arguing about events when it comes to era accuracy isn't possible. The events that happened on original shards varied from shard to shard. This argument is no different than trying to argue macroing and policy decisions. The events is not a game mechanic(what is being replicated here based on accuracy) not the different policies from one shard to the next that isn't possible to replicate. This is like trying to argue the Iron Oak invassion(the unique Iron reaper in Brit GY on the Baja shard) isn't accurate since it didn't happen on another shard. The events may in fact be automated but this is simply an improvement to the policy based on very few staff. Again, still not a game mechanic change but a policy change sinc events were UNIQUE. The events here are simply unique to this shard no different than the unique quality that other shards have, nothing more.

Now trying to argue bandages cutting towards policy change isn't feesible. Bandages cutting one by one HAPPENED on ALL shards unlike the unique events that happened from one shard to the next... This is the difference between game mechanic replication that is this server's main goal and policy decision replication which isn't the goal of this shard due to the fact it's not even possible. Trying to argue both topics into one isn't possible unless one shard had existed in the OSI shard list which obviously was never the case. You cannot replicate policy no different than trying to replicate your/mine/anyone's personal or social experience that they had during the t2a era. It just isn't possible unless you figured out how to build a time machine.

This doesn't mean that I agree with the events either... I have only participated in probably less than 1% of the total events that has happened since joining back in September '08.

[zzyzx]

*hugs Faust*

Ewwww... sticky.

[Hicha]

If you don't like the events, don't participate. Simple. Only a handful of events reward trophy points now, which is also why the price per trophy went up (supply versus demand). Events offer a variety of activities to participate in, giving more robust and fun ways to enjoy this shard as a whole.