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player vendors

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:44 pm
by caveman
They didn't deposit your gold in the bank. I sold uo gold in t2a and am 100% positive i had to use pack horses to take the gold to the bank. This wasn't changed until uor.

Re: player vendors

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:51 pm
by tekai
For the record, this is why i paid bag of tricks 350k for my moonglow vendor house. When i bought it, like almost a year ago, i had never used a vendor on UOSA, and assumed that is how it worked =p

Re: player vendors

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:38 pm
by Derrick
caveman wrote:They didn't deposit your gold in the bank. I sold uo gold in t2a and am 100% positive i had to use pack horses to take the gold to the bank. This wasn't changed until uor.
They didn't originally take gold from your bank account either. I believe both of these things were changed in era, but not sure when, or if.

Re: player vendors

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:56 pm
by Faust
I never remember played vendors depositing gold automatically into the bank.

I decided to look this up and here is what I have found so far on the topic...
Server Publish Mar 14 2001 6:55PM CST - http://update.uo.com/design_321.html wrote: Player Owned Vendor Changes
Player-owned vendors will be able to give the gold they are holding to their owners in bank check form if the amount is between 4999 gold and 1 million gold. If the gold amount being held for the player by the vendor is between 4999 and 1 million gold, the vendor will hand this to the owner in the form of a bank check (as long as the vendor is actually carrying this amount). If the amount is less equal to or less then 4999 gold then the vendor will hand the owner the amount in gold form. If the gold held by the vendor is more than 1 million gold, the vendor will retain the amount over 1 million gold until the next request for gold is made by the player.

Re: player vendors

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:40 pm
by Silverfoot
Derrick wrote:
caveman wrote:They didn't deposit your gold in the bank. I sold uo gold in t2a and am 100% positive i had to use pack horses to take the gold to the bank. This wasn't changed until uor.
They didn't originally take gold from your bank account either. I believe both of these things were changed in era, but not sure when, or if.
I am assuming you meant taking gold when purchasing an item, because I have never heard of them taking money from your bank to fund their services.
From the 12/16/1997 patch that introduced vendors:
Customers can buy items from a vendor using gold they have on their person or in the bank.
In regard to vendors automatically depositing gold in your bank account, this is from the Stratics page for npc vendor commands:
Link: http://web.archive.org/web/200003060806 ... ndorplayer
Stratics wrote: "(Name*) collect", "(Name*) gold", "(Name*) get"
If you are the owner of the vendor, he will give you the gold he is holding. He will not give you more gold than you can carry.

Re: player vendors

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:02 pm
by Derrick
Thanks. This will be fixed.
We also need to add Vendor re-deeding

Re: player vendors

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:34 pm
by Eulogy
Wow..

Combine this change with accurate secure trade gumps and the removal of bank checks, its a newbies worst nightmare :)

Re: player vendors

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:35 pm
by Mikel123
Sorry, dumb question, but how do you actually pay them? You have to drop gold on them? What happens if they run out - do they immediately disappear with all your items? I'm a little confused. Thanks for the help.

Re: player vendors

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:19 pm
by Derrick
Drop gold on them to put in in their personal account, if that runs dry, they will take money from your revenue account until that is depleted. When you run out of money they drop all their stuff in a backpack on the ground and disapear

Re: player vendors

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:00 pm
by RoadKill
Remove vendor customization too!! Have the items on all vendors fly to the owner's bank :)

Re: player vendors

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:20 am
by Phallax
RoadKill wrote:Remove vendor customization too!! Have the items on all vendors fly to the owner's bank :)
yea i dont think you could dress vendors in t2a

Re: player vendors

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:58 am
by Bigoud
guys, i understand that you want era accuracy... but sometimes basic things are so much better : for instance, we already have vendor customization working well, it makes the shard nicer..

we also have gold going back to bank directly when you collect it... honestly, if you remove this feature, i might stop my shop... pain in the *** to grab cash all the time...

please, think twice before adapting absolutely everything to the area...

removing checks was already a bad step... in my opinion = it had increased the scamming on the shard and made the bigs deals much more annoying... (yes we have brokers now, I m one of them... but think about the little noob that dont know/use forums...)

Re: player vendors

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:19 am
by RoadKill
The first thing a few of my friends saw when they arrived here were custom vendors. That's an instant turn off for many people looking for a T2A experience, one of them IM'd me shortly after seeing one and asked "what other custom additions does this "t2a shard" have?"

We have the post-AOS vendor customization system, so far out of era, during UO:R there was crappy customization (that weird gump where you could pick from a series of checkboxes/items and then hue it).

Why be an accurate shard and keep things so far out of era? I'd rather see Factions than post-AOS game aspects (and I really don't like Factions :) )

Re: player vendors

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:22 am
by Mikel123
In the history of this shard, has something from the era ever not been implemented because it would be annoying? I don't think we should start now.

Re: player vendors

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:25 am
by poogoblin
Bigoud wrote: we also have gold going back to bank directly when you collect it... honestly, if you remove this feature, i might stop my shop... pain in the *** to grab cash all the time...
Seriously? Your shop is literally 4 steps from the bank, you probably wouldn't even have to move between "collect" and banking.

I agree that I wouldn't mind seeing some of the early '00 things from T2A (healing being dex based) due to a convienance factor but if it is truly era accuracy we're going for, of the Nov-Dec '99 time frame, I'm (now) all for it as long as it actually is era accurate.