House Saftey

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Tom Bombadil
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House Saftey

Post by Tom Bombadil »

Hello,

I have checked the forums and found some great info but my question is specific. I have the smallest house you can have. My question is, if my door is locked, and I have locked containers that are also locked, is there anyway for someone to possibly loot those containers? I have read about glitches where you can loot through walls. Is that true, should I move my containers to the middle of the floor? I would think that if my front door is locked everything should be O.K. yes? Also, I would assume that the front doors of houses can not be picked? Please give me a run down as I lost something today and I thought I was secure. Thank you.

-Tom

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Re: House Saftey

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I believe you're safe, but someone can always stealth into your house when you open the door. To be safe, you should use detect hidden each time you walk into your home. At least I think so, someone else can confirm.
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Re: House Saftey

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Front doors cannot be lockpicked. A GM chest can be lockpicked by a GM Lockpicker, however he will not be able to pick and/or open the chest from outside your small house.

If you were looted, chances are:

a.) You gated from inside your home, and someone followed you back in
b.) When you entered the home, someone snuck in behind you and you didn't notice
c.) Your front door isn't locked
d.) Someone has a copy of your key (if you made copies, or had the key looted)

Best bet is to change your house locks, then make a hotkey for Detect Hidden. Whenever you enter your home, you should stand directly in front of your house door (taking note to watch your system message for things like "You shove something invisible aside.")

1. Stand in front of door
2. Open door
3. Take two steps in
4. Close door (if you can't close the door, someone is hiding in the doorway)
5. Hit your detect hidden hotkey
6. Either target yourself or target the floor of your home

In addition, you should also create an "i ban thee" hotkey, or simple incorporate it into your vendor buy/sell macros, so you can easily ban anyone who has made it into your home and you've detected them.
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Re: House Saftey

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You want to change the z-axis of your lock downs if you want better security. One way is to lock down cloth first then put the tables on top. Once you lock down the tables you can remove the cloth. Keep an axe weapon locked down to destroy the trash barrel you will use as a secured doorway and you are good to go.

Otherwise your locked down containers if they are just on the other side of the barrier are still accessible.
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Re: House Saftey

Post by Mikel123 »

Hi Tom,

I believe it was me who looted from your house. Are you missing a few piles of ingots? That's all I took.

I think I killed you and found a rune to your house and a house key. So I cast Recall on the rune and was able to open the door because the house key was in my pack.

I noticed you had a chest that was locked down and locked with another key (which I did not have). But, these types of chests can be picked by a good lockpicker. So I brought my lockpicker in there and picked the chest and took the ingots that were inside.

You are correct, front doors cannot be picked.

Security with a 7x7 house is a little tough, because there's such limited space (it's really a 5x5 on the inside). My suggestion would be to set your house up like this:

WWWWWWW
W C C C C C W
W O O O O O W
W T T T T T W
W O O O O O W
WWW D WWW

W means wall. C means a chest that you've locked down. O means open space. T means a table that you have locked down. And D is for your door.

What you would do is keep your front door unlocked, and walk inside and shut the door behind you. Once the door is shut, use the Detect Hidden skill to ensure no one is hidden in there. Then unlock a table, step onto the space it was on, and then put it back on the ground and lock it back down. You can set a macro for this... mine is:

Say: I wish to release this.
Wait for Target
Target Table.
Drag table to pack.
Pause 2.00 seconds.
Lift Table
drop to ground (change to relative location, 0,0,0)
Say: I wish to lock this down.
Wait for Target
Target Table

During the 2 second pause, I move from the space I'm on to the space the table used to be on. Then just stay there and wait for the macro to finish.

With the setup above, no one can access your chests the far side of those tables. They can see what's inside by using the Telekinesis spell, but they cannot take anything.

Also note... if you want to macro in your home, the ONLY safe square is the center tile - the center T table space in the picture above. So before you spend a night (or afternoon) macroing, I'd make sure the door is locked, then release that center table, stand on that square, drop it back down and lock it down (so you're standing essentially on a locked down table) and macro like that.

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Re: House Saftey

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Another thing I do, is just throw the key away and get another from the options on my house sign each time I come back home.
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