Training melee with low dex

[Lazarus]

I'm not 100% sure if this is the right spot but I'm working on a tank mage so hes 100 str, 100 int but only 25 dex. I want to train his mace fighting, whats the best way to go about this? Its around 40 or so. I was wondering why I don't really gain, seems to be going slow, and I just thought about it, its probably the low dex. Any tips? Should I drop int for now, raise dex and then train melee?

[Bag]

while on the topic, even worse than a wep skill is wrestling. I'm trying to get my bard's wrestling up (without tactics, too, since it's not in my template) and it's just nightmarishly slow and boring. I'm not sure where to begin to effectively raise this.

[Lazarus]

while on the topic, even worse than a wep skill is wrestling. I'm trying to get my bard's wrestling up (without tactics, too, since it's not in my template) and it's just nightmarishly slow and boring. I'm not sure where to begin to effectively raise this.

Whats your skill level at?

[Mikel123]

Don't worry about dex right now. Going from 25 to 100 dex doesn't even double the speed of your swings.

There are two keys to raising these skills by macroing: first, don't macro on another human target. It gains very slowly. Macro or train against an NPC. Second, your gains will go fastest when fighting against something that has around the same skill level as you.

Easiest way to go is to hire an NPC fighter and whack on him for a while - as you raise in skill, it will too. Wear full plate armor to keep you getting hit at low amounts of damage. Use your character to heal the NPC (assuming you're training healing) and use an alternate character to heal yourself (either a second one of your accounts, a friend, etc).

If you have a tamer, or think you might want one in the future, you can also trap a polar bear or grizzly bear and beat on one of them for a while. You can heal yourself, and have your tamer heal the bear. They have high HPs and don't hit too hard, so hopefully neither of you will die

[Bag]

I hear order guards are the best, but it seems next to impossible to actually get one to certain locations (ice isle?).

[Lazarus]

I guess I need a house. Was trying to train it without one.

[Hicha]

There are two keys to raising these skills by macroing: first, don't macro on another human target. It gains very slowly. Macro or train against an NPC. Second, your gains will go fastest when fighting against something that has around the same skill level as you.

I was able to GM wrestling last night in less than 3 hours by attacking a mage hireling. I had tried previously on a separate character who used a paladin hireling, and after 6 hours I was barely around 45 wrestling.

I hear order guards are the best, but it seems next to impossible to actually get one to certain locations (ice isle?).

I think the problem with using Order Guards (or any NPC with a shield) is that attacks that are parried or blocked don't seem to get the skill gain check. I tried using an Order Guard for archery and I burned through about 10k arrows to get to 80ish skill (and I started with 50.) I've seen people say they GMed with less than 6k arrows. My only conclusion is parry is to blame.

[Lazarus]

hiicha where did you get a npc mage and do you have a healing macro for healing him?

[Mikel123]

hicha, parry shouldn't impact it. People who used 6k arrows did it against blade spirits (and, may have started at 50 archery). Maybe it has something to do with the skill level of blade spirits.

Also, you can simply break the order guard's shield, if you want - if you have a macer, it won't take long at all. I thought archery would wear down the shield too, but apparently not.

[Hicha]

hiicha where did you get a npc mage and do you have a healing macro for healing him?

You can usually find them in the Jhelom pit or in reagant shops (North Moonglow vendor or Magincia reg vendors usually have NPCs)

my heal macro was basically heal the npc, pause 6 secs, heal my wrestling char, pause 6 secs. (i hired the npc but only gave him like 200 gold, so midway he released and started attacking my wrestler.)

only used 1500 bandages, used a dexxer with gm healing to heal both.

[Lazarus]

hiicha where did you get a npc mage and do you have a healing macro for healing him?

You can usually find them in the Jhelom pit or in reagant shops (North Moonglow vendor or Magincia reg vendors usually have NPCs)

my heal macro was basically heal the npc, pause 6 secs, heal my wrestling char, pause 6 secs. (i hired the npc but only gave him like 200 gold, so midway he released and started attacking my wrestler.)

only used 1500 bandages, used a dexxer with gm healing to heal both.

Sweet. I'll have to try this. My dexxer needs to gain healing too, only at high 60s.

[Bag]

can probably get an npc mage easy enough in wind. although, can you gate out of wind? probably not. can walk him out through lich room though.