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Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:20 pm
by chumbucket
Currently for 20 silver you can change the color of a trophy. I propose that for, say, 30 silver you are allowed to change the name of a trophy and that no one else be allowed to give a trophy that name except you.
That is all.
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:33 pm
by MatronDeWinter
This would be a great idea for player ran events to make their own trophies rather than relying on staff-given rewards.
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:56 pm
by chumbucket
MatronDeWinter wrote:This would be a great idea for player ran events to make their own trophies rather than relying on staff-given rewards.
This is true and a good point though I have nothing against staff-given rewards. My original thought was harking back to the old idea I had about the chumbucket Award for etc etc which was a good idea but I don't think I will actually ask for one now given that some of the problems suggested in that thread seemed reasonable.
So my thought was this would be a nice way to do something similar, i.e., provide people with rewards they can give to whoever they see fit to give them to for whatever reason they see fit to give them. Obviously, you wouldn't want them named to anything that has been given out before by staff at events and not really, I think, even by others who might use this system.
Also, I now think 30k is too high. Changing the color also, as I understand it, ups the values of the trophy changed, whereas changing the name would not. So perhaps simply, say, 15 silver for this?
Anyways, just an idea to give players more tools but tools that are more in line with what we already have in the system than the old proposal I had about tiny watches or whatever.
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:02 pm
by Panthor the Hated
Sounds like a bad thing for player events - it would mean it costs more in silver to make the trophy than its worth. Why would we want to make player run events more costly than they already are?
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:22 pm
by BlackFoot
i like and dislike the idea.
i like - great rewards for events - they already cost a fortune to run (as anyone who runs them often can attest to), but really it would just come out of the prize money anyway. So overall prizes would drop a bunch but you'd get a cooler trophy. As opposed to giving a first/second place prize etc it would just be one first place prize in trophy form. It is not like you would be required to hand these out at your events either.
i like - great idea for guilds for internal awards/prizes/events - busts would be great named after all old guildmasters etc
dislike - i feel it would dramatically decrease the importance of the old trophies we have now that are really the only solid evidence we have to track old events. (Im probably one of the only people that care)
however - so long as there is a way to show these trophies were custom named, either with a * or whatnot in the name it would be a moot point. (help avoid scams and other garbage)
dislike - gotta go will finish post in a bit
overall thumbs up, with some 'only ifs'.
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:22 pm
by Mikel123
Panthor, the idea is that people spending the silver to change the name on the trophy don't really give a crap that they're "losing" silver to do so.
As for the winners, the trophy was free to them so it's still free, and worth something if they wanted to trade it in for silver pieces.
Blackfoot, seems like you wouldn't have an issue with this as long as it's not a previously taken name. Which certainly seems fair, and in fact seems to be a subset of chumbucket's proposal of "can't name a trophy something that's already been used on a trophy".
I think it's a great idea, as long as the trophies aren't used in a harassing manner (like, referencing other players/guilds/etc., other than the winner of the trophy of course).
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:29 pm
by chumbucket
Mikel123 wrote:I think it's a great idea, as long as the trophies aren't used in a harassing manner (like, referencing other players/guilds/etc., other than the winner of the trophy of course).
That takes half my ideas away.
Honestly, I didn't intend these to be replacement for the trophies staff make for events. I want to conduct/give out some cA-only type events/awards, and this is what prompted me to suggest it this way since the old idea, though I guess approved by the shard and staff, seems in retrospect not ideal.
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:31 pm
by Panthor the Hated
Mikel123 wrote:Panthor, the idea is that people spending the silver to change the name on the trophy don't really give a crap that they're "losing" silver to do so.
Who cares what the idea is? The reality is you're making it more expensive to run player events.
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:34 pm
by Pristiq
Creates server uniques.
Also, you should be able to name several trophies the same thing.
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:08 pm
by chumbucket
Panthor the Hated wrote:Mikel123 wrote:Panthor, the idea is that people spending the silver to change the name on the trophy don't really give a crap that they're "losing" silver to do so.
Who cares what the idea is? The reality is you're making it more expensive to run player events.
Again, no reason there can't be both. The uses I have in mind for these are for those occasions in which it would be inappropriate for staff to give out trophies, e.g., a guild only event.
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:09 pm
by BlackFoot
i meant there needs to be something showing that it was a custom named trophy through silver system.
i had another what at the time, seemed like an important thing that needed to be addressed but it escapes me now.
the more options for the silver turn in rewards the better imo
they would be perfect non public event rewards.
i want a chumbucket bust. or even better, but im not sure it woudl be ok, an ian bust
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:16 pm
by Panthor the Hated
i what sjanes bust
hiyooooooooo
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:52 am
by Pristiq
Panthor the Hated wrote:i what sjanes bust
hiyooooooooo
^5
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:17 pm
by chumbucket
BlackFoot wrote:i meant there needs to be something showing that it was a custom named trophy through silver system.
i had another what at the time, seemed like an important thing that needed to be addressed but it escapes me now.
the more options for the silver turn in rewards the better imo
they would be perfect non public event rewards.
i want a chumbucket bust. or even better, but im not sure it woudl be ok, an ian bust
If you can't duplicate trophies given out at events or by other players, then why do we need to distinguish the two?
Re: Small addition to silver rewards...
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:26 pm
by Panthor the Hated
Why do you want to make unique silver bearing trophies? Why not non-silver rewards? Eventually your one of a kind silver-bearing trophy will be cashed in. Seems like a waste, and it requires the staff to do more work confirming specific names are shard-unique.