Revise the event pay out structure

[Ronk]

Given there are a lot of heated arguments about adding/removing events. I have a slight alteration to what I suggest...

I think all event payouts should be revised. Each event should have a set entry fee. You must pay this entry fee to enter the event and sign up. It could be 5000 gold, 10000 gold, whatever. All entry fees go into a pool.

In the case of a single winner, the winner gets 80% of all entry fees as his prize. Losers get nothing.
In the case of a winning team, the winners each split 100% of the entry fees. Thus if the total entry fees total to 100,000 gold and there are 10 winners, each winner takes home 10,000 gold.

This revised pay structure would ensure that each entrant into an event must risk something. In addition, in the case of 1 winner events, it will create a gold sync.

The silver system should be scraped completely. Silver should no longer be awarded for events. IF the staff deems it appropriate, they can sell silver coins at a given gold to silver ratio or merely convert all trammel prizes to a gold based system.

Note: If silver is removed, all existing silver should be converted to gold to ensure no one gets stuck with useless winnings and to ensure no new 'uber rares' are mistakenly created.

[GuardianKnight]

So your plan is to not only change the events, but to also erase trophy points and replace them with gold?

1. People like myself and blackfoot collect the trophies themselves. They are a big part of the shard history.
2. Erasing silver and replacing with gold goes against our usual procedure here, where items are grandfathered after a change.

3. Charging people 5k to join a tournament that only 2 people on the server ever win seems like it's not gonna happen.


I promise I'm not trying to be hateful. Your changes are extremist though . Come up with something that won't just outright slit everyone's throats.

[MatronDeWinter]

So your plan is to not only change the events, but to also erase trophy points and replace them with gold?

1. People like myself and blackfoot collect the trophies themselves. They are a big part of the shard history.
2. Erasing silver and replacing with gold goes against our usual procedure here, where items are grandfathered after a change.

3. Charging people 5k to join a tournament that only 2 people on the server ever win seems like it's not gonna happen.


I promise I'm not trying to be hateful. Your changes are extremist though . Come up with something that won't just outright slit everyone's throats.

I'm with GK, removing the events is the best option.

[Mens Rea]

I'm slowly beginning to agree with Matron.

[Mirage]

This sums up changing the event system.

[Fede]

I give Ronks post 2 thumbs down because that is all I have. Once - get back to a computer, I am going to vote no 4 times.

[Braden]

This sums up changing the event system.

Mirage is correct. We already have 50 million threads requesting we remove the events and just an equal amount of people who do not want to see them go.

If it has not already become apparent, yes, we know they are not era accurate, and no, we are not getting rid of them.

[Fede]

All of you anti-trammel extremist losers just got owned. Thank you Braden for protecting my only revenue source. I also want to thank you for saving me the time for voting no 4 times.

[Lord Cavewight of GL]

yes, we know they are not era accurate, and no, we are not getting rid of them.

This seems to be a bit confusing. Its now the offical staff position that events will never be removed?

This is the first mechanical issue im aware of that the staff has said will never be made era accurate.

I was told that Second age has a policy of mechanical era accuracy and that the will of the player-base will not influence any changes. Is this true?


In the event thread Sandro claimed "the staff team likes the events and wants to keep them" to which Kavian replied that this was only his opinion.

Yeah but no matter what Tagarr wants, the staff team likes the events and wants to keep them.

That's entirely your opinion on the subject.

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To which Sandro replies

That's why they've been here for 3 years and have stayed exactly the same, right?

Which Kaivan replies to with the following:

First, events aren't exactly the same as they were three years ago, much less one. Second, your statement was that the staff team (see also: all of us) want to keep them. That statement is entirely based on opinion.

Is it now a fact that all the staff members have decided to keep events as is regardless of accuracy? Events will never be changed?

Events changed times and for a long time they were not in prime-time because players complained about the effect on prime-time game play. Nothing about events will ever change again?



Braden is your statement that "events will never be removed" now the official position of the staff? Kaivans post made it seem like the decision was up in the air. Has this changed?


If this decision has already been made then the staff needs to make it clear so that the debate can finally end and the large portion of the player base affected by events can get some peace of mind on the subject and not have to endlessly debate or worry about the subject.


Alot of people have been making multiple threads for a reason. This debate is no longer one sided and needs to be addressed if the policy of the staff is already decided. No where have I ever read "events as they exist will always be on secondage", until now.

However I have heard alot of discussion and seen alot of work go into "era accuracy" and if events are never to be made accurate we should know about it.



Please confirm this is the policy of the staff and will or wont be made era accurate so we can end the debate.

[iamreallysquall]

Second Age is set in the T2A era of UO. These were very dangerous times in the land of Britannia; as such citizens who wander outside the protection of the guards do so at their own risk. Know how to protect yourself for you will be out of the reach of Lord British's assistance. Staff will not typically intervene in player affairs.


Or we can patch in trammel oh wait we have events..................Non era accurate events with non era accurate mechanics seems to speak against the goal of the server.


i also second what cavewight said as well.

[Lord Cavewight of GL]

Non era accurate events with non era accurate mechanics seems to speak against the goal of the server.

I agree It does seem odd to get such a direct statement that something will never adhere to the goal of the shard.

We really do need to know for sure this is the position of the entire staff. Especially with conflicting posts on the subject.

End the discussion if a decisions already been made.

[Populus]

Mirage is correct. We already have 50 million threads requesting we remove the events and just an equal amount of people who do not want to see them go.

If it has not already become apparent, yes, we know they are not era accurate, and no, we are not getting rid of them.

Doubt it.

[Sandro]

Mirage is correct. We already have 50 million threads requesting we remove the events and just an equal amount of people who do not want to see them go.

If it has not already become apparent, yes, we know they are not era accurate, and no, we are not getting rid of them.

Owned

[Arsen]

braden said it wont change and you guys keep posting non sense you hardcore raging nerds rofl.

[LifeForce]

We really do need to know for sure this is the position of the entire staff. Especially with conflicting posts on the subject.

oh come on... do you live under a rock? staff was pretty clear on this subject a couple of times.

and they are well aware that at the core of this t2a shard runs a system that pretty much resembles everything the era was not about.