Selling bulk stable spots, jokes on us. DERRICK HELP

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Hellros wrote:Imo accuraccy reached his limit in this scenario. Production T2a never ran as long as our server did and they most likely didn't have the ressources to keep it unlimited.

Limited stable spot is one of those bug or annoyance you don't want to preserve. It serves no purpose, the mechanics to balance this kind of market are not there. The way the server handle the slot is a pain and force you to zerg the stable with random stuff early in the morning.

As for tamers being nerfed, this is hardly a valid argument. If you had time to gm a tamer you likely have time to browse the forum and buy a fuck tons of stable slot with that easy money you're making. It's not like training taming has because any easier with the years (quite the opposite as i seen) This is more a general gameplay issue, a general annoyance of a feature that is now failling horribly. The tamer ain't nerfed he is just very annoyed because switching animal ain't fun. The new player is pissed because he can't stable backup mounts (that's me 1 week ago).

I was looking for a Uo server last week and i decided to give uosa a try since i knew about it, i played like 10hours 3 years ago. I almost gave up when i saw that post on the forum about limited stable slots. I was like, wtf i am supposed to do here as a new player if there are veteran out there that won't even let me stable stuff without paying them lol... If you don't fix this for tamer fix it for new players...

So not true,you can make a tamer with 98 or so taming in a week now.

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LudKrud wrote:
Hellros wrote:Imo accuraccy reached his limit in this scenario. Production T2a never ran as long as our server did and they most likely didn't have the ressources to keep it unlimited.

Limited stable spot is one of those bug or annoyance you don't want to preserve. It serves no purpose, the mechanics to balance this kind of market are not there. The way the server handle the slot is a pain and force you to zerg the stable with random stuff early in the morning.

As for tamers being nerfed, this is hardly a valid argument. If you had time to gm a tamer you likely have time to browse the forum and buy a fuck tons of stable slot with that easy money you're making. It's not like training taming has because any easier with the years (quite the opposite as i seen) This is more a general gameplay issue, a general annoyance of a feature that is now failling horribly. The tamer ain't nerfed he is just very annoyed because switching animal ain't fun. The new player is pissed because he can't stable backup mounts (that's me 1 week ago).

I was looking for a Uo server last week and i decided to give uosa a try since i knew about it, i played like 10hours 3 years ago. I almost gave up when i saw that post on the forum about limited stable slots. I was like, wtf i am supposed to do here as a new player if there are veteran out there that won't even let me stable stuff without paying them lol... If you don't fix this for tamer fix it for new players...

So not true,you can make a tamer with 98 or so taming in a week now.
And back in 2008 you could just sit afk macro in your home taming the same animal over and over

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there needs to be more slots. i know theres .01% of you that benefit from all the stables being full, but it's at everyone elses expense. if you can't see that then you're a fool, if you can see it and feel righteous arguing the other way i feel sorry for you.

when you have people afk stealing stable spots instantly stabling their mount when you claim, because people have 100+ spots just to corner a 'commodity' for a couple thousand each, that is primarily bought and sold through irc or forums, which NOT the majority of shard users even use you are negatively impacting the shard. whether or not you acknowledge it or care is irrelevant. most people lie to themselves all the time; you're not special

I personally like seeing more people around. I enjoy new players and when i first started i stabled things. Do i think it's going to cause people to totally quit? I'm sure it's happened. Is it common? Of course not. But to say it doesn't matter at all is foolish. Let's call a spade a spade here.

You can say that 'it's for the good of the shard' like ragancy, but you're either lying through your teeth or brain dead. or you have a very ignorant idea of what 'good for the shard' actually is. and as for the 15 characters ' 15 stable spots ' LOL! refer to rationalizing

i could buy the 50 that B^S was selling WITH DRAGONS OMG (like that's really what someone is paying for) but why would i need 50 dragons, come on.

and FYI when you sell stable spots with dragons and they sell for the same amount as stable spots, you don't have to clarify that the spots come with dragons just to make it appear like theres any value to the dragons or that's whats really for sale here.

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If you cant find stable spots you may have a problem.Are they always available? No.Do they become available quite often? Yes.Is it a pain? Yes. Is it going to go to infinite stable space any time within the next few years? Probably not....
Check stables often,and before you take your pet out check your journal to make sure there is no "stable spot stealer" there to take your spot once you get it.

This is a rehash of a couple other threads and it has been stated quite a few times that there will be no change in the stables...

If it sucks so bad you dont like playing there are other shards that have infinite stable space Im sure.And probably unicorns and neon ninjas....

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this thread isnt about infinite spots, and this ninja dismounts from his horse while hiding to steal the spot so checking the journal is not applicable

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Would anyone ever know if there was a system put in that always allowed a character to have 1 pet stabled, but if they went to stable their "2nd" pet it checked the total count...? The first stabled pet wouldn't count towards to total stable slots. That way everyone could at least have one pet stabled whenever they wanted to, but would still allow for the stupid large amounts of dragons for one person that hogs that particular stable.

I know its not era-accurate, but it would certainly alleviate the issue...and allow the server to return to more Era-Accurate Gameplay...
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Do we even know exactly how many stable spots were available on production shards? Why not increase the limit to something very high on each stable master. It would then be era accurate (unless someone can prove the number of slots in era) and would solve the problem.

I'm not talking about just a few hundred spots per stable master.. I mean doubling or tripling the amount of slots for every stable master and maybe even adding a few more to player ran towns. This is an era accurate solution.

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I'm Fine with people Filling up stables with mounts, and Dragons and what have you. I'm just turned off at the thought of someone stabling 40 cows and then selling off the stable slots. (not saying this is happening yet) but I am afraid this is whats going to wind up happening. I am finding it a lot harder to find stable spots than when I last played a Year ago but I've not been on at peak hours so i'm not sure if the server has just grown that much or a handful of people are just hoarding stable slots for the fun of it.

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Dyne wrote:I'm Fine with people Filling up stables with mounts, and Dragons and what have you. I'm just turned off at the thought of someone stabling 40 cows and then selling off the stable slots.
That is exactly what is happening.

But I really don't see the big deal, spend 20 minutes buy/find a few spots and be set for a year. Tamers don't need it any easier.

Also, if anyone's really desperate for a couple of stable spots, pm me, I just bought a chunk of them.
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mrbojangles wrote:
Dyne wrote: But I really don't see the big deal, spend 20 minutes buy/find a few spots and be set for a year. Tamers don't need it any easier.
So they should just hoard dragons in the center of a keep that have been tamed before.

We aren't worried about making it 'easier' for tamers. They have an easy enough time... gate invis come back loot w/e. It SUCKS for someone who is new and 1k is A LOT OF GOLD for them and they have to chance losing their ONLY mount because some taimer/slot whore has 50dragons/cats stabled so that they can have slots.

It doesn't matter for the tamer, they can just go to wind or the fire temple or destard and get a new Dragon, those aren't hard to come by. It is just a time saver for them to have them stabled... They will also be the users who will their 2nd or 3rd account sniping stable slots so they can fit that 51st dragon in the stable, just in case...
The newbie/casual player wouldn't put the effort in to snipe a slot, they just want a nice game play so that they can save their mount/pack horse.

I know this is not an era accurate thing, but could we have exotic stable masters (limited slots, as it is now) and normal stable masters (unlimited slots, only holds animals that can be controlled with 0 skill) That way the tamers can duke it out, and the normal player/casual player won't have a sour taste in their mouth the first day they get a mount, want to macro, and then go 'Screw this shard'

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For mounts, you can log out while mounted, and your mount is secure and safe. UOSA allows each player to have three accounts, with five characters per account, giving 15 characters total. So you can always safely "store" 15 mounts by logging off while mounted.
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Zelek Uther wrote:For mounts, you can log out while mounted, and your mount is secure and safe. UOSA allows each player to have three accounts, with five characters per account, giving 15 characters total. So you can always safely "store" 15 mounts by logging off while mounted.

I don't think that's what hes getting at. i think he means if he dies or gets pk'd he cant have a "backup mount" in a stable. i mean who wants to log on a 2nd toon to transfer a mount to the toon u died on just to run back and get ur loot. if any is left. I think this is more of an example of People EXPLOITING the fact we are doing an "era Accurate" server. and to me that is a knife in the back to what this server stands for.

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we still crying about this and suggesting NEA suggestions? their is no solution we increase the cap same problem will happen i have had the same pets for like 3 years and slots and i have lost 1-2 slots in that time and got them back in the same stable with hardly any effort recalling around aimlessly is not going to snag you a spot unless you just get lucky wise up and get your self some spots its really not that had.
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I say 1 of 2 things should happen. Increase cap to 4x what it is. or put a cap per player. and before people start screaming "ERA ACCURACY" All i half to say is this. Back in Osi of 99 how many accounts were u allowed to have? Yea that is right ONE. This server is here to bring back players that Love the game as it was back then. and Id even be willing to have a vote. how many threads did you see on OSI's trade forums selling stable slots? None. that's what this thread is about. Farming stable slots should not or Ever be a marketable Trade skill in the Second age. It was not Era Accurate back when we all played Osi and it should not be now.

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Wow i really shouldn't rant when i'm drunk. :lol: Ohh well. my points the same :mrgreen:

Stable slots were meant for those who use them for pets and what not. They were not meant to be farmable for profit.

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