Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Topics related to Second Age
Post Reply
Merchant of Death
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:20 pm

Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Merchant of Death »

Sorry guys for this question, but It's been awhile since I've played.
The question is this: Does tactics affect chance to hit or just increase damage? Wondering if I had just a melee skill such as fencing without tactics or anatomy would I still be able to effectively hit a target even though it would not be for much damage?

User avatar
Faust
Posts: 6247
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:01 pm

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Faust »

Anatomy = Damage and healing(bandages) bonus.
Tactics = Damage bonus.
Weapon Skill = Chance to hit with that weapon type.

User avatar
Arkon
UOSA Subscriber!
UOSA Subscriber!
Posts: 248
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:02 am
Location: In your house stealing your stuff.

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Arkon »

Faust is correct.

The formula is something like: % of base dmg = tactics + 50.

So at 100 tactics it's 150% of base damage. A considerable increase, imo. (If that makes any sense)
"If you want an image of the future, imagine a bag of milk being poured on a human face--forever."

Kraarug
UOSA Donor!!
UOSA Donor!!
Posts: 1448
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:46 pm

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Kraarug »

The exception is Archery Bonus.

The magic modifer for Archery is a melee bonus rather than a damage modifer.

So, holding a bow with +25 Archery means you won't get hit as much as well as strike more.
Image

Mr.T
Posts: 381
Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:48 pm

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Mr.T »

Wait so if Tactics is only a damage multiplier, if you had no tactics and switch for something like healing, would you still be able to throw down some reasonable hally hits?
Image

User avatar
Faust
Posts: 6247
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:01 pm

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Faust »

No, MrT.

Tactics is actually a modifier instead of a bonus theoretically. For example, having no tactics would actually give you a much lower damage output from the weapon instead of the regular base damage. Tactics will eventually hit the 100% base damage, and if I'm not mistaken a 150% of the base damage at hundred in the skill.

Anatomy and Strength atrributes on the other hand purely gives bonus damage that is added to the damage output of the weapon.

Mr.T
Posts: 381
Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:48 pm

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Mr.T »

ahh ok thanks
Image

Eulogy
Posts: 481
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:28 am

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Eulogy »

Here is how tactics works.
0 tactics = 50% base dmg of the weapon
50 tactics = 100% base dmg of the weapon
100 tactics = 150% base dmg of the weapon

100 anatomy = 20% damage bonus

GM swords vs GM swords = 50% hit chance
GM swords vs 0 swords = GM will hit 100%

Edited for accuracy.
Last edited by Eulogy on Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image

User avatar
Faust
Posts: 6247
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:01 pm

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Faust »

Anatomy is a 20% increase not 30% Eulogy. The extra 10% was added on after the UOR era.

Also, combat hit % is based on the weapon skill of your opponent at that particular time when the swing occurs not the same type of weapon you're using at that moment For example, using a sword with GM swords against an opponent using a mace with GM macing will yield a 50% chance to hit. However, using a sword with GM swords against an opponent using a mace with zero macing will yield a 100% hit, etc... I know that is what you meant but clarifying that incase someone may get confused. :wink:

Eulogy
Posts: 481
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:28 am

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Eulogy »

Yeah, makes sense. Edited.
Image

ArchaicSubrosa
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:58 pm

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by ArchaicSubrosa »

Does Dexterity play into this as well besides how fast you swing a weapon? Is there anything stat/skill wise that hastens stamina gain?

Merchant of Death
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:20 pm

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Merchant of Death »

So with zero tactics,high dex,GM fencing,and using a dagger would I still be able to hit a gm wrestler fairly often?

Eulogy
Posts: 481
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:28 am

Re: Newb Question about melee chance to hit.

Post by Eulogy »

Chance to hit pits your weapon skill against theirs.
Your GM Fencing vs their GM wrestling, and it's a 50% chance to hit.
Image

Post Reply