Taming Laughable?

[Mikel123]

What are you trying to prove Hoots? This is what I mean by hurting your cause. You quoted posts of me saying "Taming is messed up, let's do some research on it". Low and behold, what happened?

I guess I would be making personal attacks as well if I felt cornered, I guess the reality of facts written in stone is finally setting in.

See, this is the problem. He directly quotes you talking about how ice isle "needs a nerf". Saying "it wasn't this easy to make a tamer" even though back then in T2A... you weren't even making a tamer, so really you have no clue. Saying it's BS that they can go from 85 to GM by macroing, even though that's perfectly allowable within the rules of the shard and the T2A mechanics. Suggesting that we arbitrarily make it harder to tame mares because idiots back in 1999 had a hard time doing it by themselves at the time.

Really, this is your way of saying "needs some research"? No. It says you're whining and pissed off, and you're suggesting flat-out nerfs because you don't like how other people are playing. Plain and simple.

[Hemperor]

What are you trying to prove Hoots? This is what I mean by hurting your cause. You quoted posts of me saying "Taming is messed up, let's do some research on it". Low and behold, what happened?

I guess I would be making personal attacks as well if I felt cornered, I guess the reality of facts written in stone is finally setting in.

See, this is the problem. He directly quotes you talking about how ice isle "needs a nerf". Saying "it wasn't this easy to make a tamer" even though back then in T2A... you weren't even making a tamer, so really you have no clue. Saying it's BS that they can go from 85 to GM by macroing, even though that's perfectly allowable within the rules of the shard and the T2A mechanics. Suggesting that we arbitrarily make it harder to tame mares because idiots back in 1999 had a hard time doing it by themselves at the time.

Really, this is your way of saying "needs some research"? No. It says you're whining and pissed off, and you're suggesting flat-out nerfs because you don't like how other people are playing. Plain and simple.

Not only are you insulting myself at this point, but the staff of this shard as well. No changes on this shard have ever been based off opinions, tamers certainly did piss this shard off for a period of about 2 months there. Staff did a great job researching the matter, it has been presented to you.

I'll assume that once again your next reply won't even mention the research, ignorance is bliss, no?

[Faust]

So your argument for our end-of-1999 shard is something that was written in December 2000, and "there is probably an earlier date"? That seems sort of suspect.

I went back and read the original thread. http://forum.uosecondage.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5189

I think Kefka felt much like I do right now... neither of us particularly care too much about whether "all kill" is useful or not... it only makes hunting slightly easier if it is implemented. But we just feel the need to argue with you because you're so clearly biased and/or not understanding how vague the documentation really is.

Try not bashing someone else being bias when you're so blatantly biased in the same response...

Using an approach like that typically doesn't help your cause especially when you go back and forth stating that you don't care when you obviously do since you're arguing the point in the first place.


Read previous thread below, btw.

We are suppose to use your word or the next person instead?

Again, provide proof to support a claim if you think something is incorrect.

We are now back to page 2 where this topic should have been ended to begin with until you prove your claims.

[Mikel123]

Hemperor, you're grasping at straws. I never insulted the staff, nor will I.

And it looks like you are not refuting my statements that (a) your quotes show you to be ridiculously biased, and (b) people are allowed to have the opinion that the research is vague and hard to decipher. That's all I ask for. Staff decision is staff decision, and I trust that they are not as biased as you.

[Hoots]

http://www.tamingarchive.com/index.php?archive=2000.03

isnt this saying the article on PvP taming was placed on that site march 30, 2000?

Of course that doesnt say when it was written (mentioning locks)?

"I added a few links. There is now a dragon taming faq in the pet section as well as a pvp faq under faqs and articles"